…and the problem would largely solve itself.That is so sad. Maryland should have laws that protect law-abiding citizens who engage in self-defense.
Good to see you post again!!Now another scenario, you’re a LE and charged with a felony for a bad shoot by a libtard States attorney. You’ve got a department issued 15 round mag, or even self purchased mags carrying on your person. LE exemption here? (Used to be a cop, not anymore, just curious as to thoughts on this scenario)
Last updatedSo, no surprise, a Balitmore council member has staff that got in trouble. But I don’t want to get into that. This woman had a handgun with her, in her car, apparently distributing pot, and no CCW. The gun had two 16 capacity mags. One fully loaded in the gun and a second with 14 rounds. The Sun article says:
“Johnson was charged with utilizing a magazine with a capacity of more than 10 rounds of ammunition, a misdemeanor that carries a maximum penalty of three years incarceration, a $5,000 fine or both.”
I know we cannot manufacture, alter, transfer, buy or sell mags with capacity greater than 10 here in Md. But we can own them, if acquired elsewhere. These charges make it sound like we are prohibited from USING the larger mags in MD. I was not aware of this. Can someone with knowledge of this law (even if you’re not a lawyer) educate me on this? If one were to (hypothetically) own larger mags and had a CCW, would that person not be allowed to carry with them? And what about at the range? Would this same hypothetical person be in violation if they were training with (and this, utilizing) a larger capacity mag?
Sorry if this has been discussed before. I did a quick scan of recent posts but didn’t see anything related.
Full article here:
City Council President Nick Mosby’s assistant arrested on gun, drug charges in Baltimore County
An assistant for Baltimore City Council President Nick Mosby was arrested on gun and marijuana distribution charges in Baltimore County earlier this month, and released from jail Friday, court reco…www.baltimoresun.com
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If your action would otherwise be legal with a 10-round mag, no crime.Taking a gun out of my safe in my home during a burglary and using it to protect myself and family with a 12, 13, 15 etc round mag instead of a 10 rounder, AM I NOW committing a crime, so I could face the " in commission of a crime" charge?
These laws are an affront to the 2nd Amendment, but they are enforced every day by those who swore an oath to the Constitution.Three pages of discussion on what is considered legal and 'illegal' according to people who have NO RIGHT to Infringe on ANYTHING about the Second Amendment, to begin with.
And she was ROR'd! Thanks Criminal Justice Reinvestment Act - now her customers can stop jonesing for their fix. Be warned though, you come to the rural counties and CJRA be damned, you will be held without....Here are her charges: https://casesearch.courts.state.md....caseId=D08CR22004221&loc=29&detailLoc=ODYCRIM
Here is Md Criminal Law § 4-306(b)(1):
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Because she’s also charged with felonies, (b)(1) is an applicable charge.
Diminuition credits. Outside a crime of violence generally, you serve 24% of a sentence in prison at most and 50% of a sentence in jail. If there is overcrowding or other issues it is possible to go down from there. So 2 years of local time is work 1 year - but you need to get over 4 years of prison time in the state system to do the same year. You can tell the folks that know the system because they specifically ask me for state rather than county time (state time is also more palatable because there are more privileged).Yeah a good friend of mine was attacked by a guy in Ellicott city a few years ago. He’d stolen a bike from her porch and she drove after him to confront him. Her her defense, she was having a BAD week and it as her son’s bike. So her first thought wasn’t call the cops. The guy dropped the bike and started to run. So she stuck it in her car and went to get back in and he ran at her and punched her several times in the face and tried to pull her out of her car. She got away. Cops caught up with him not long after.
Rap sheet several pages long including at least 3 or 4 convictions in a dozen years. Probably the guy needed some serious social services intervention/helping hand more then a decade ago, but was probably a lost cause. A lot of vagrancy and public intoxication stuff early on, but moving in to assault and domestic abuse and theft the last few years.
Anyway, DA basically said state charges we could get 3 years, but he’d likely walk in 1. County charges they could get 2 years and he’d serve all of it. So my friend said “okay, let’s go county”.
Yeah, he was sentenced to 2. He was credited for about 50 days in jail (he pled, so it was all fast) and he did get “good conduct”. Basically he was in for about a year of the 2 years.
My friend still can’t lift her arm above shoulder height from the damage he did punching her. And her physical therapy lasted longer than the time he served.
I am all about reform and helping people change their life. Just throwing them in jail or prison rarely is going to change them for the better. But if that is ALL we are going to do anyway, this BS of putting someone away for small fractions of the penalty when they are looking at their 2nd, 3rd, 6th offenses. Nope. That’s the kind of crap they need to be looking at the max sentence and making sure they serve it unless they can convince a parole board they’ve really changed. Not just “credit for good behavior” when that is often 1:1.
I'd recommend getting some standard capacity magazines. Neutering your CCW doesn't make sense.Maryland being Maryland when comes to “gun laws”
But why the dust up about 10 round mags…it is a fact of life here in MD
I only use10 round mags with my EDC Glock as that is how I carry and train… no confusion in the moment… I do carry two or more additional 10 round mags on my person for a “rainy day”
Just the thoughts of an “Old Timer”
Yup BUT. Due to "Control" they have acquired, now even if a legal gun owner should shoot a person in the act of posing a threat to life such as a home invasion, car jacking, kidnapping etc, even with a CCW in public, or in the home use of our firearm, litigious society we now have possible charges against the endangered shooter vs the corpse/ surviving perp. It is F'd up, like you said. No regard for our Constitutional, let alone God given right to protect one's life.Three pages of discussion on what is considered legal and 'illegal' according to people who have NO RIGHT to Infringe on ANYTHING about the Second Amendment, to begin with.
How can they honor their Oath, and continue to legitimize this travesty against the Constitution? It renders their Oath, meaningless.These laws are an affront to the 2nd Amendment, but they are enforced every day by those who swore an oath to the Constitution.
Illegal to use, period.Possesion is not illegal. However if I recall correctly it is illegal to use a mag with more than 10 rounds in the comission of a crime.
Basically one more tack on charge for prosecutors to use in order to rack up a long list of scary sounding charges.
Maryland being Maryland when comes to “gun laws”
But why the dust up about 10 round mags…it is a fact of life here in MD
I only use10 round mags with my EDC Glock as that is how I carry and train… no confusion in the moment… I do carry two or more additional 10 round mags on my person for a “rainy day”
Just the thoughts of an “Old Timer”
Illegal to use, period.
No, it’s not.
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Well...just illegal to use illegally. I guess I can get behind that logic