Help me build a 223 / 556

[Kilroy]

If it was me, I would go with the PSA 16" midlength light weight upper. Add the MOE handguards and rear sight, and you'll have a pretty nice upper for $567. For the lower, buy a stripped lower from one of your local shops. Go to Joe Bob Outfitters for a lower build kit, piece together your own at Citizens Armory, or get PSA's MOE build kit. You could also get a Plum Crazy complete lower from Joe Bob, they are cheap and seem to work well. Any other questions?

 

[ARealNoob]

ok I didn't quite know what the MOE rails where but I think I do now and it seems they will be able to support accessories.

 

[Kilroy]

You can attach all sorts of things to them, and they're cheap. For your purposes, I'd highly recommend them over a rail system.
http://www.impactweaponscomponents.com/

 

[jrumann59]

To the OP. I did a partial build for my first AR. Never owned one, played with them in the Army 14 years ago but I was drunk a lot between the last time I used one until I built mine. Like I said I did a partial build, I built the lower and bought a fully assmebled upper. It is easy to see what its going to cost you for all the parts but remember you will need tools and that is another $100 to $150 or there abouts. Good luck!!!!

 

[Kilroy]

Tools aren't that expensive to build a lower. You need a roll pin punch set, screwdriver, castle nut wrench, moly assembly grease, blue locktite, and maybe a center punch.

 

[jrumann59]

Tools aren't that expensive to build a lower. You need a roll pin punch set, screwdriver, castle nut wrench, moly assembly grease, blue locktite, and maybe a center punch.

forgot vise blocks, roll pin starter set, torque wrench, set of hex keys. If you do not have a workbench you will need one of those plus a vise. By themselves all are fairly cheap but if you have none of these it is an added expense that will pay for itself down the road after 3-4 builds.

 

[-Z/28-]

forgot vise blocks, roll pin starter set, torque wrench, set of hex keys. If you do not have a workbench you will need one of those plus a vise. By themselves all are fairly cheap but if you have none of these it is an added expense that will pay for itself down the road after 3-4 builds.

What are you talking about? I put together my lower using a vice grip, needle-nose pliers, and a screw driver. 3 tools that anyone should have laying around anyway.

Oh and my hands, if you wanna get technical.

 

[ARealNoob]

well i am going to order this:
http://palmettostatearmory.com/inde...ts/16-hammer-forged-mid-length-rifle-kit.html

and will either get a stag or psa lower

 

[stu929]

I have a stripped lower I could do for 100 if you are still looking

Cmmg I live in silver spring

 

[303_enfield]

Used will get you under $500. Or watch AR15 for the $60 lowers and deals on uppers.

That 16'' Hammer Forged Mid-Length Rifle Kit was on sale for under $499. not to long ago. Take your time and watch for deals.

Lowers and stuff:
http://www.aimsurplus.com/catalog.aspx?groupid=11&name=New+Long+Guns

If you have stuff to trade you can find all types of deals.

Good luck!

 

[ARealNoob]

the kit was on sale at psa?

 

[303_enfield]

the kit was on sale at psa?

Same kit was $465 shipped to my door. PSA Has sales all the time.

Read around here:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/f_2/301_Palmetto_State_Armory.html
If they have a sale or code they will list it.

Deals get listed here also:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/f_3/4_Build_It_Yourself.html

Take your time and try some stuff before you buy it.

 

[jrumann59]

What are you talking about? I put together my lower using a vice grip, needle-nose pliers, and a screw driver. 3 tools that anyone should have laying around anyway.

Oh and my hands, if you wanna get technical.

I am happy for you but I go on the assumption that people are mechanically inept enough that changing a light bulb needs proper tools and guidelines. I also believe right tool for the right job usually does not leave a trail of tears when everything is said and done.

 

[-Z/28-]

I am happy for you but I go on the assumption that people are mechanically inept enough that changing a light bulb needs proper tools and guidelines. I also believe right tool for the right job usually does not leave a trail of tears when everything is said and done.

Wasn't that hard. There's a how-to over on arfcom on using vice grips to insert all the pins, instead of punches. Much simpler in my opinion.

 

[jrumann59]

Wasn't that hard. There's a how-to over on arfcom on using vice grips to insert all the pins, instead of punches. Much simpler in my opinion.

Oh I believe you but I think one should always walk before running. I am also with you but for a novice I recommend the right tools first. I have taken plenty of allen, torx, and phillps head screws out with a flat blade or needle nose or epoxy crap from as seen on TV.

 

[ARealNoob]

any thoughts on the flash hider options?

A2
yhm 5c1
yhm 28 5m2

do any of these effect accuracy

 

[MauiWowie]

Tools aren't that expensive to build a lower. You need a roll pin punch set, screwdriver, castle nut wrench, moly assembly grease, blue locktite, and maybe a center punch.

Whats the locktite for?
Grip screw??

 

[Calengor]

any thoughts on the flash hider options?

A2
yhm 5c1
yhm 28 5m2

do any of these effect accuracy

I'd take a look at the BattleComp 1.0 or 2.0, I have the 1.5 permanently attached on my 14.5 and like it a lot.

Those shouldn't affect accuracy.

 

[-Z/28-]

any thoughts on the flash hider options?

A2
yhm 5c1
yhm 28 5m2

do any of these effect accuracy

I have a YHM Phantom 28a on my 14.5 and like it. Nice and pointy and evil looking.

None will have an effect on accuracy. A compensator/muzzle brake would help reduce recoil, but I'd avoid them if you shoot indoors at all. They intensify the concussion of the blast and WILL piss off whoever is in the lane next to you as they send hot gasses into their face.

Here's my 28a:

 

[jashu360]

Wasn't that hard. There's a how-to over on arfcom on using vice grips to insert all the pins, instead of punches. Much simpler in my opinion.

i agree with you 100% i bought all the tools the other guy listed and didnt even use them, you dont need any of that bull and there were no tears at the end of my build, now i did shed a tear of joy the first time i shot it