Help barrel leaded

[platekiller]

Thoughts on trying a 20ga brush?

I'm going to Walmart soon to see what I can use

 

[wgttgw]

I would just get the copper core boy like others suggested it will work.

How bad is the leading? Is it just antimony wash? Have you tried just a brass brush with some hoppes #9 because that will take the antimony wash out. Did you loose accuracy before the leading occurred because that is usually the case.

Full throttle 296 loads in the 44 mag shot from a revolver are no problem if the fit, alloy, and lube are right. A lot of smiths had tight cylinder throats which can be a problem. Where are you getting leading? (At the forcing cone, last section of the barrel or where).

You mentioned 300 grain bullets gave to you, where they gas check design, and if so did they have the gas checks installed? What was the lube? Did you seat and crimp in separate steps?

Sorry for so many questions just thought someone may be able to help.

 

[stu929]

Where are you guys finding chore boys? I havent been able to find them anywhere?

 

[platekiller]

I would just get the copper core boy like others suggested it will work. How bad is the leading? Is it just antimony wash? Have you tried just a brass brush with some hoppes #9 because that will take the antimony wash out. Did you loose accuracy before the leading occurred because that is usually the case. Full throttle 296 loads in the 44 mag shot from a revolver are no problem if the fit, alloy, and lube are right. A lot of smiths had tight cylinder throats which can be a problem. Where are you getting leading? (At the forcing cone, last section of the barrel or where). You mentioned 300 grain bullets gave to you, where they gas check design, and if so did they have the gas checks installed? What was the lube? Did you seat and crimp in separate steps? Sorry for so many questions just thought someone may be able to help.

I didn't notice accuracy loss as it was just plinking and most the shooting was by new shooter not me. I tried the 296 loads and the 300 loads, but was just hitting soda cans and bottles. I noticed the leading when I was cleaning and a chunk of lead came out. Tried wipe out but it didn't help much. The 300 bullets I'm not sure if they were for gas checks or not, but no checks on. They may not have been lubed properly. I don't cast so I'm not versed in all lead bullet stuff. Typically I load bullets from manufacturers like alpha bravo and the like and they work great. The leading is in the first 2 inches of the barrel.

I always seat and crimp separate on 44 (Lee dies and factory crip)

I have made some headway. I used a 410 brush so it is a bit tighter and most the big stuff has come out. It is soaking in wipeout now and I will brush some more in a little. May get some patches later to get the little stuff.

I'm still interested if someone in the area has something I can use.

Thanks for all the help guys. Keep it coming.

 

[platekiller]

And you guys sufficiently scared me away from chore boy as I don't want to risk ruining the barrel.

 

[coopermania]

Where are you guys finding chore boys? I havent been able to find them anywhere?

http://choreboyscrubbers.com/en/Product_Locator.aspx

 

[coopermania]

And you guys sufficiently scared me away from chore boy as I don't want to risk ruining the barrel.

Good god... its made out of solid copper... It will not harm your firearm.

 

[John from MD]

Good god... its made out of solid copper... It will not harm your firearm.

That's true as long as they are copper. I have found Copper Colored scrubbers that look the same but they are strands of copper colored steel. Now I take a magnet with me to check if they are the real thing.

OP, leading in the first couple of inches is usually from undersized bullets or from too mild a pressure for the hardness of the bullets. I don't think you have tight chambers as you haven't encountered this problem before.

 

[coopermania]

We have been talking about using nothing but ' Chore Boy Scrubbers,' A solid copper product.

 

[platekiller]

That's true as long as they are copper. I have found Copper Colored scrubbers that look the same but they are strands of copper colored steel. Now I take a magnet with me to check if they are the real thing. OP, leading in the first couple of inches is usually from undersized bullets or from too mild a pressure for the hardness of the bullets. I don't think you have tight chambers as you haven't encountered this problem before.

Indeed the steel is what I was referring to. A magnet is a good idea.

I only had a few of the bullets. I did load on the light side, but was at the start load so I'm not sure. I didn't measure the bullets. Lesson learned there. The 296 loads were at the start as well, but used the same bullet in my normal loads. The rest of the shooting were my tried and true loads.

The leading might be worse because I didn't notice it when shooting so we shot after it leaded (either 300gr or win 296 load) because after I tested those we shot my normal load for the fun stuff. My guess is the 300 gr cause.

Most of the lead is out with a wipe out soak and a 410 brush.

 

[platekiller]

We have been talking about using nothing but ' Chore Boy Scrubbers,' A solid copper product.

True but some said there is a chance of getting steel of you don't use that specific brand and I'm not sure where in frederick to get it today. That why I'm shying away from this route, but the 410 brush seems to be working as it's a little over sized.

 

[John from MD]

One place you can be sure to get the right stuff is at a Marine store. The have both copper and bronze but they are more expensive than chore boys. Since most people only get leaded barrels once in a while, a bag will last you a long time.

 

[coopermania]

And you guys sufficiently scared me away from chore boy as I don't want to risk ruining the barrel.

Geepers Weiner, Its not like its a Colt Revolver.

 

[jayc0968]

As I stated before, Ace Hardware for Chore Boy

 

[platekiller]

Geepers Weiner, Its not like its a Colt Revolver.

True, but if I ruin the barrel , then I won't have a 44 anymore and probably won't get it fixed or a replacement for some time. In reality I would have to sell my hi power to get it running. I would rather not be out of a gun if possible.

 

[platekiller]

As I stated before, Ace Hardware for Chore Boy

I'm dumb. I didn't realize there is an ace in Thurmont and mount airy. If I go to mt airy I could check gun shack for options too, but I would have to wait. Walmart didn't have kleen bore lead away like they used to.

 

[John from MD]

Hey platekiller,

If you want to keep that model 29 for a long time, don't feed it loads with 296 or 2400. Stick to the faster powders like Unique, WW231 or Powerpistol. The slower powders require more pressure to work and they increase the strain on the gun. While strong, a S&W is still nowhere near a Super Redhawk or Super BlackHawk.

If you are just punching paper, a 210-215 gn bullet will work just as well as a 240.

 

[platekiller]

Hey platekiller, If you want to keep that model 29 for a long time, don't feed it loads with 296 or 2400. Stick to the faster powders like Unique, WW231 or Powerpistol. The slower powders require more pressure to work and they increase the strain on the gun. While strong, a S&W is still nowhere near a Super Redhawk or Super BlackHawk. If you are just punching paper, a 210-215 gn bullet will work just as well as a 240.

I use 240 because it's what I have been able to find and barter for. I normally use unique or 800x. I only loaded 6 rounds with 296 to test it as I have access to as much as I can use for some time.

 

[eightshot627]

Cut patch of aluminum window screen. Again put a magnet on it to make sure its not steel. There is fiberglass screen to. I know the aluminum works.

Walt

 

[platekiller]

Cut patch of aluminum window screen. Again put a magnet on it to make sure its not steel. There is fiberglass screen to. I know the aluminum works. Walt

May have to try fiberglass as I have that on hand may have aluminum too. Just have the last bit to get out.