cap6888
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Do they have to vote on this? Or is there a chance it may go away? We will have to hit Hogan hard to veto this if it passes.
http://mgaleg.maryland.gov/webmga/frmMain.aspx?pid=billpage&stab=01&id=HB1302&tab=subject3&ys=2018RS
I see an affective date of October 1 2018 did this pass ?
I wanna know why Maryland never gets any of the love these other states get in helping with anti 2a Bills?
We are the Red headed step child of all the states. Can't we get just a little help every once in awhile?
The Senate Judicial Proceedings Committee has it and no vote has been taken because this Red Flag bill is rife with so many violations of due process.
I can tell you that our protests, both inside and outside the building, have traction:
I would take this to also mean that there are some key Democrats that care about civil liberties (not necessarily including the 2A) that aren't subject to the whims of the mob. At least I hope there are pending final outcome of this legislation.
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(R)'s get shafted either way - vote for it means lost 2A supporters, vote against it means fear, uncertainty, doubt about campaign funding and votes.Apparently zirkin didn’t like it from the getgo.
Hopefully this disappears forever
And good riddance if it does.
If this does because it’s bad, which it is, and the dems kill it, what does that say about the republicans who voted for it?
(R)'s get shafted either way - vote for it means lost 2A supporters, vote against it means fear, uncertainty, doubt about campaign funding and votes.
I've been completely cynical about this whole thing, but I do wish to thank the PP and others who testified against this abomination.
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(R)'s get shafted either way - vote for it means lost 2A supporters, vote against it means fear, uncertainty, doubt about campaign funding and votes.
I've been completely cynical about this whole thing, but I do wish to thank the PP and others who testified against this abomination.
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if it passes I see some serious money getting paid out by the state to folks and some nasty lawsuits
Here is where we are: The Democrats have pushed an "Everytown For Gun Safety" lobbyist into the driver's seat to shape this gun-hating, man-hating, Constitution-hating Red Flag Bill, HB1032, as the legislature deadlines loom.
I have met and interacted with this lobbyist.
Our side is trying like hell to invalidate this abomination of a bill by reminding the Progressive extremists in the MGA that a little "smidge" of Due Process violation here, and a little dollop of Constitutional side-step there does not an American law make!
Yes, there are some Democrats that remember the history of Democrat party going to the mat for Civil Rights, but we are not hearing the bold and loud pronouncements this week that "safety" issues demand STRICT adherence to Due Process. What happened to the wing of the Democrat Party that ALWAYS had a torch lit.... to watch for Governmental over-reach and State power crushing the lives of individual Americans?
Well, it seems the Democrat Torch is there as long as those Americans aren't Marylanders.
Like a hot fashion trend racing cross-country, 2018 is the year of the Red Flag Bill in Democrat-led legislatures nationwide and MD Dems don't want to be left behind, even if what they pass infringes on citizen rights just an IDDITY BIDDY WIDDLE BIT. That's right, in their fervor to ring the Red Flag bell, Democrats here think the old notions of Due Process are quaint and OPTIONAL when there are men with firearms living among us.
Let's call this effort for what it is: the Red Flag Bills are Gun Control bills dressed-up by hysterical Democrat House delegates as Domestic Violence mitigation programs. Except that the only "Respondents" the Democrats are interested in targeting are....wait for it....firearm owners. That's right, the pushers of HB1032 can't stop talking about firearms. This, despite the fact that Maryland households are filled with kitchen knives, hammers, baseball bats, tire irons, scissors, heavy iron fire pokers, machetes, screwdrivers, torque wrenches, breaker bars, and on and on and on, except this bill says "GET THE GUNS", because "we are agitated and to Hell with your Civil Rights"!
You should see the lobby when this bill is being discussed or in a mark-up--nothing but "Moms Demand Action" regulars and "Everytown For Gun Safety" reps in fevered discussion groups with every participant being a female. At the head of this parade, two more women with a history of animus toward Maryland traditions and our 400 years of of firearm ownership: MoCo (need we say more) House Delegate Kathleen Dumais and Prince-George's-by-way-of Brooklyn-NY House Delegate Geraldine Valentino-Smith. In hearings, the seats next to them are filled with females wanting police raids on men who own firearms when there's the least little whiff that they are agitated.
This is the New Reality in the Culture Wars: women chief sponsors (and only women) pushing legislation targeting ONLY MEN, and only targeting male firearm owners--but not those firearm-fearful (but agitated) men in homes with kitchen knives, hammers, baseball bats, tire irons, scissors, heavy iron fire pokers, machetes, screwdrivers, torque wrenches, breaker bars, and on and on and on.
This whole process smells of a war on half the population using the power of the State as a bully. It is disgraceful.
For years, though, Maryland has had a template to deal with people who threaten harm or mayhem. It's what's called the "Health General" regulations.
Communicate to legislators any way you can that Maryland's time-tested "Health General" regs are a firm foundation that can be amended to provide a 24/7 pathway for those truly threatened, while preserving each man's Due Process rights when the great weight of the State comes swooping down because gun-hating women feel endangered by this legal, constitutionally-protected property .
As for timing: more "mark-up" discussion takes place tomorrow and/or Monday at the Senate Judicial Proceedings Committee, which is feeling the pressure from the Hysterical Wing of the Maryland Democrat Party to "produce a Red Flag Bill!, ANY Red Flag Bill!" before Tuesday.
For years, though, Maryland has had a template to deal with people who threaten harm or mayhem. It's what's called the "Health General" regulations. Communicate to legislators any way you can that Maryland's time-tested "Health General" regs are a firm foundation that can be amended to provide a 24/7 pathway for those truly threatened, while preserving each man's Due Process rights when the great weight of the State comes swooping down . . .