HB0824 (2023) - Public Safety - Regulated Firearms - Possession and Permits to Carry, Wear, and Transport a Handgun

[Mark75H]

Double the fees AND 8 hours of training for renewals. WTF!!

Has always been 8 hours of training for renewals.

 

[5cary]

It's been mentioned before, but it boils my blood that legislators aren't held accountable for passing blatantly unconstitutional laws.

This is a direct FU to SCOTUS. And they know it.

 

[teratos]

It's been mentioned before, but it boils my blood that legislators aren't held accountable for passing blatantly unconstitutional laws.

This is a direct FU to SCOTUS. And they know it.

Agreed. They should lose qualified immunity and be PERSONALLY accountable.

 

[csanc123]

Has always been 8 hours of training for renewals.

My bad. Rereading...I'm exempt however, the double fees is correct and is certainly arbitrary. Like magic they go "poof"...more money out your pocket for a constitutional right.

 

[FrankZ]

Agreed. They should lose qualified immunity and be PERSONALLY accountable.

Don't forget the tar and feathers too...

 

[rbird7282]

Agreed. They should lose qualified immunity and be PERSONALLY accountable.

Absofreakinglutely!

 

[jmcgonig]

It's been mentioned before, but it boils my blood that legislators aren't held accountable for passing blatantly unconstitutional laws.

This is a direct FU to SCOTUS. And they know it.

This is really the problem of gerrymandering. These type of laws/behaviors are the results of these one sided equations. Both sides do it. I really believe that would solve so many problems...

 

[MJD438]

As has been pointed out to me in a text - there were, allegedly, some final amendments from the Senate that are not reflected in the current "T" version of the bill. It may take until Monday until the actual Concurrence vote text is reflected in the PDF on the bill page that I linked.

 

[dblas]

Double the fees AND 8 hours of training for renewals. WTF!!

8 Hours of training for a renewal has been a thing since 2013.

 

[csanc123]

8 Hours of training for a renewal has been a thing since 2013.

yep...already pointed out.

 

[lazarus]

Double the fees AND 8 hours of training for renewals. WTF!!

The renewal already required 8hrs of training. Unless they unamended it, the senate cut the fees by $25. So it is more like a 50% increase rather than a Doubling. But yeah, still a big FU to us

 

[Scottysan]

That's what we get for living in Marylandistan...

 

[Billyb]

As has been pointed out to me in a text - there were, allegedly, some final amendments from the Senate that are not reflected in the current "T" version of the bill. It may take until Monday until the actual Concurrence vote text is reflected in the PDF on the bill page that I linked.

What a crazy system. I wonder if the delegates/senators even know what they are voting for most of the time. From the little I've been able to follow online it seems like they really don't.

 

[teratos]

What a crazy system. I wonder if the delegates/senators even know what they are voting for most of the time. From the little I've been able to follow online it seems like they really don't.

No. They are told to vote a particular way, and they do. Go talk to some. Many can’t put together a coherent sentence.

 

[Some Guy]

HB-824 passed the Senate by a vote of 28 - 13, in the fourth Senate floor session on Good Friday, last night at about 11:30 PM.

Watch the video of the final “discussion” and vote here:

Floor Actions - Senate

mgaleg.maryland.gov

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James demonstrates cowardice once again. Muse, too.

 

[Some Guy]

That won’t go well in court. Arbitrarily doubling already exorbitant costs for someone to exercise a Right. It’s a short term impediment. I believe in the long run, this helps us. It proves there is too much fuckery the GA can engage in when permits are necessary.

The fee doubling is also a violation of the 14th amendment because it discriminates against lower-income persons, most of whom are minorities. That's a big Bruen NO-NO.

 

[Tower43]

Anyone have the final text? What do we need to do to file lawsuits?

 

[teratos]

What do we need to do to file lawsuits?

Donate to MSI.

 

[Bertfish]

Anyone have the final text? What do we need to do to file lawsuits?

Review the final text when available. If you believe you have standing to sue on any restriction join MSI if you haven't already and reach out to Mark detailing how you believe you have standing.

 

[Tower43]

Review the final text when available. If you believe you have standing to sue on any restriction join MSI if you haven't already and reach out to Mark detailing how you believe you have standing.

Ive been a member of MSI for a while, renewed again recently with what little extra capital I had at the time.

I just want to find a way to stick it to em.

I mean the nearly double in cost alone is enough for me.. Sure, I make $85k/yr.. but that is single income family of 6... it doesn't go far.