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  • Cold Steel

    Active Member
    Sep 26, 2006
    803
    Bethesda, MD
    The problem is, Liberty Safes entered a willful compliance in its cooperation with the FBI. In short, as I understand it, it didn't have to comply with the FBI search --- it didn't have to provide the government with the passcode to get into the customer's safe. This has created a huge stink for Liberty Safes. The good thing is, Liberty Safes has now created a website for customers to remove the passcodes from their safes. But once they do, Liberty Safes will not be able to help them if they lose/forget their combinations.

    To get the full story, do a YouTube search for LIBERTY SAFES and GLENN BECK. Beck has done some good background on this. Liberty Safes is a good company and its safes are first-rate.
     

    John from MD

    American Patriot
    MDS Supporter
    May 12, 2005
    22,965
    Socialist State of Maryland
    The problem is, Liberty Safes entered a willful compliance in its cooperation with the FBI. In short, as I understand it, it didn't have to comply with the FBI search --- it didn't have to provide the government with the passcode to get into the customer's safe. This has created a huge stink for Liberty Safes. The good thing is, Liberty Safes has now created a website for customers to remove the passcodes from their safes. But once they do, Liberty Safes will not be able to help them if they lose/forget their combinations.

    To get the full story, do a YouTube search for LIBERTY SAFES and GLENN BECK. Beck has done some good background on this. Liberty Safes is a good company and its safes are first-rate.
    I don't use the electronic locks. The 6700 series mechanical Sargent and Greenleaf locks serve me just fine.
     

    Bullfrog

    Ultimate Member
    Oct 8, 2009
    15,323
    Carroll County
    Just get a heavy steel door for a spare bedroom.

    Without doing any work on the walls? In most modern homes the walls are two thicknesses of drywall and studs with lots of space between. You could get through with a butter knife.


    ETA: just saw your follow up post that your comment was partly joking. NM.
     

    DanGuy48

    Ultimate Member
    Most times it is better to sell and then buy another at the new house.
    We’re trying to move shortly and I was planning to let the safe convey with the house. I started looking at prices for comparable safes and thought again. Thompson Safes here in Frederick said he’ll move mine for in the $500 neighborhood, after I described safe, location, route to move it. Well worth the price compared to buying new, IMO.
     

    Bullfrog

    Ultimate Member
    Oct 8, 2009
    15,323
    Carroll County
    I don't use the electronic locks. The 6700 series mechanical Sargent and Greenleaf locks serve me just fine.

    Yeah. Too many things can go wrong.

    They both have their uses. A larger safe with a well made mechanical lock (like S&G) for reliability, and also one or more smaller ones in various places with electronic locks for quick access seems to me to be a good compromise.
     

    chriskat

    Active Member
    Nov 1, 2009
    113
    Regarding the size, I think generally they won't hold what they claim. Unless you fill them with .22 rimfire semi-auto's.
     

    John from MD

    American Patriot
    MDS Supporter
    May 12, 2005
    22,965
    Socialist State of Maryland
    We’re trying to move shortly and I was planning to let the safe convey with the house. I started looking at prices for comparable safes and thought again. Thompson Safes here in Frederick said he’ll move mine for in the $500 neighborhood, after I described safe, location, route to move it. Well worth the price compared to buying new, IMO.
    For $500, I would do it.
     

    trickg

    Guns 'n Drums
    MDS Supporter
    Jul 22, 2008
    14,725
    Glen Burnie
    What's a decent safe to get, less than 2k? I have 7 long guns and about 30 hand guns. I was about to get a Liberty Safe.

    You need a safe that holds 14 long guns and 60 handguns.
    A couple of thoughts here, although I'm certain that if you ever did a deep dive on the internet about gun safes, you'll read some of this anyway.

    You don't want to skimp on the cost of a safe. I get it - the budget is the budget, but you have to consider the value of what the safe contains - I have a fair bit of value in my safe, and with 37 various guns (your 7 long guns and 30 handguns comment) you undoubtedly have a fair bit of value there. I paid a good bit for my safe back around 2011 and I'm glad I did. I put a fair bit in there that isn't guns too - mainly important documents.

    Like K31 said, get something a good bit bigger than you need. I'm at a point now where my safe is pretty full, and in hindsight I wish I'd have gotten something bigger.
     

    Trepang

    Ultimate Member
    Dec 10, 2015
    3,355
    Southern Illinois
    I don't mean to stir the pot but has anyone had first hand, personal experience with an electronic safe combination lock failing?

    I was all against them and my first safe has a S&G mechanical. The wife always had trouble with it.

    I was out running a fishing party and she needed her passport ASAP and couldn't get it open despite knowing the combination. She threw a fit and insisted we buy another safe with an electronic lock. Twist my arm to buy another safe will ya.....

    Anyway...

    I have actually come to like it and when it came time to buy a third safe, I also got it with an electronic lock.

    I change the batteries in it, my red dots, my flashlights and smoke detectors every birthday and after 10+ years, I haven't had an issue with the lock.

    I fully realize any safe can be breached with enough time and tools.

    I am more concerned with the meth-head smash and grab type burglar than a Heat-like professional crew coming after me. All three safes are bolted down with no access to the backs and sides and minimal access to the tops.
     

    John from MD

    American Patriot
    MDS Supporter
    May 12, 2005
    22,965
    Socialist State of Maryland
    I don't mean to stir the pot but has anyone had first hand, personal experience with an electronic safe combination lock failing?

    I was all against them and my first safe has a S&G mechanical. The wife always had trouble with it.

    I was out running a fishing party and she needed her passport ASAP and couldn't get it open despite knowing the combination. She threw a fit and insisted we buy another safe with an electronic lock. Twist my arm to buy another safe will ya.....

    Anyway...

    I have actually come to like it and when it came time to buy a third safe, I also got it with an electronic lock.

    I change the batteries in it, my red dots, my flashlights and smoke detectors every birthday and after 10+ years, I haven't had an issue with the lock.

    I fully realize any safe can be breached with enough time and tools.

    I am more concerned with the meth-head smash and grab type burglar than a Heat-like professional crew coming after me. All three safes are bolted down with no access to the backs and sides and minimal access to the tops.
    You might search the archives as I believe we had a couple of members who needed gunsmiths to drill out the lock when the electronic lock failed.

    However, with my memory, it could well have been people on the Compuserve Forums I am remembering. :lol:
     

    Trepang

    Ultimate Member
    Dec 10, 2015
    3,355
    Southern Illinois
    You might search the archives as I believe we had a couple of members who needed gunsmiths to drill out the lock when the electronic lock failed.

    However, with my memory, it could well have been people on the Compuserve Forums I am remembering. :lol:
    I hear ya. Trying to remember if I had dinner this evening and its only 6:35pm...lol

    I personally have never known anyone that had an issue with the e-locks and it seems like most of my friends and co-workers have them. That was part of the reason I went with one on my third "name-which-will-not-be-spoken" safe.
     

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