johnb007
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- Jul 6, 2011
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Desktop CNC machines have dropped in price. Time to order one.
Desktop CNC machines have dropped in price. Time to order one.
Good thing I brought home my very own Bridgeport two months ago
Good thing I brought home my very own Bridgeport two months ago
The ruling is pretty clear about "business, society, or association." That said, a group of unaffiliated/unincorporated INDIVIDUALS can still meet-up and have a build party.
What we need is some smart ass to use his local civic center for a build party. Maybe a National Guard armory?
This leads me to a legal question. Say a military organization sets up a unit fund per (for the Army) AR 600-29 and AR 215-1 and as part of the MWR activity buys build equipment and sponsors a build party. Or, uses an MWR machine shop for the same purpose. What rules apply? Is a military organization exempt ATF manufacturing rules in this case?
Furthermore, if I rent a drill press from Home Depot's tool rental department to drill holes in a lower, does that make Home Depot guilty of profiting from firearm manufacturing? This letter is on a very slippery slope.
Desktop CNC machines have dropped in price. Time to order one.
"Nothing is more destructive of respect for the government and the law of the land than passing laws[and making rulings] which cannot be enforced."
- Albert Einstein, My First Impression of the U.S.A., 1921
Even if it were their EXACT intent, what would happen if some agressive DA looking to raise his profile co-opted with an equally agressive ATF agent, who then overlooked the ruling 'intent' and prosecuted the 'build party' attendees. How many of us has the monetary where-with-all to defend ourselves, no matter how innocent we believe ourselves to be ?
This is why we CAN'T let this ruling stand undefined. Low hanging fruit tenents apply ...
"Nothing is more destructive of respect for the government and the law of the land than passing laws[and making rulings] which cannot be enforced."
- Albert Einstein, My First Impression of the U.S.A., 1921
^So true
Even if it were their EXACT intent, what would happen if some agressive DA looking to raise his profile co-opted with an equally agressive ATF agent, who then overlooked the ruling 'intent' and prosecuted the 'build party' attendees. How many of us has the monetary where-with-all to defend ourselves, no matter how innocent we believe ourselves to be ?
Very nice! What did you give for it if I may ask?
I'll bet you had fun getting that beast off the truck, let alone in the garage.
No more borrowing Billy Bob's lathe and mill.
The way it's written, it could mean lending someone your AR15 tool box so they can complete their rifle from parts.
Now what does "Machinery or Equipment" mean? Exactly! Floor mounted? Electrically powered? Hand tools?
There go the 'build parties'
After reading the entire letter, it seems this is directed to a Bussiness, not an individual. I see nothing in the letter that says an individual cannot lend another individual tools, or, assist that individual.
Furthermore, if I rent a drill press from Home Depot's tool rental department to drill holes in a lower, does that make Home Depot guilty of profiting from firearm manufacturing? This letter is on a very slippery slope.
Only if you use the drill press on Home Depot property.
Once you take the drill press home, the BATFE ruling does not apply.
I also think dropping a bunch of parts off to your buddy so he can build a gun from parts would be considered manufacturing. Not sure I'd want to be the test case.
Did someone here write another letter?