VNVGUNNER
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Just have your dad loan it to you for now.
...for sporting purposes.Just have your dad loan it to you for now.
I have the C&R. It's not on the list. If I just leave it in PA at the house, I can take advantage of the PA Open Carry when I visit.
The MSP is not an FFL and I don't think the feds will allow it if across state lines.Can't he just do the transfer paperwork at MSP and then pick it up from his dad 10 days later?....
I was under the impression that the only time an FFL had to become involved was if the transfer was part of a sale.The MSP is not an FFL and I don't think the feds will allow it if across state lines.
I was under the impression that the only time an FFL had to become involved was if the transfer was part of a sale.
Negative - it depends upon the laws in the State of Pennsylvania. Are you sure it's "registered" to him? According to some quick research I did, there is no registration of handguns in PA.
In Nebraska, it's perfectly legal for a father to give any kind of regular gun (shotgun, rifle, handgun) to another member of the family with no paper shuffle. Likewise, there is no law that says that you have to put a handgun on the books in Maryland unless you purchase one. I inherited a number of handguns in Nebraska - essentially given to me by my Mom who was the initial beneficiary - and I legally brought them to Maryland without filling out any paperwork. It's simply not a law that you have to do so.
Novus, I don't think that is accurate and I don't believe an FFL must be involved. For instance, let's say that while my Dad was still alive and I was living as a resident in Maryland, had he wanted to give me a handgun while I was visiting him in Nebraska. Since there are no laws that dictate that paperwork must be completed or filed for a parent to give a gun to their child who is of age to own, the the gun becomes mine free and clear in Nebraska and I can legally bring it to the state of Maryland. The ONLY time an FFL needs to become involved is if it's an NFA/Class III firearm or if the firearm is purchased.
If Vette97 as the son takes possession of the gun in Pennsylvania as the son and if no paperwork is required for that transaction, then he can legally take the gun to Maryland since there is no registration or any other paperwork required in Maryland unless the handgun is being purchased. If you can find and post links to supporting documentation that refutes that, great, but otherwise the laws of the state of Pennsylvania prevail, regardless of the state of residency of the recipient if the recipient is the child of the gun owner.
Unless the laws changed after I left PA in 1996 (I lived there 22 years), there was no registration.
http://www.pafoa.org/forum/question-answer-40/30015-registration.html
PA has no registration for handguns. They have recordation of sale which is like in MD.Again, incorrect! All handguns in Pennsylvania must be registered and for ownership to exchange across state lines, an FFL must do the transfer to remove the registration from the Pa. resident and apply it to the new owner in Maryland. Otherwise, it will always be registered to the Pa. resident and to cross the state line with an unregistered handgun is a felony. If it is registered to Johnny in Pa. and Billy now has possession of it in Maryland, the law does not apply to Johnny, it applies to Billy who has possession of a handgun not registered to him a.k.a "Unregistered".
All handgun transfers between non licensees across state lines have to go through an FFL. This is federal law and has nothing to do with PA law.This is a link to The Pennsylvania Firearms Owners Association. What branch of law enforcement is that? Contact the BATF in Harrisburg and you'll get the answer that they go by. The PAFOA has as much legal influence as an automobile dealership. I must remember to call them for the next firearm related legal advise I need.
This is a link to The Pennsylvania Firearms Owners Association. What branch of law enforcement is that? Contact the BATF in Harrisburg and you'll get the answer that they go by. The PAFOA has as much legal influence as an automobile dealership. I must remember to call them for the next firearm related legal advise I need.