PapiBarcelona
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- Jan 1, 2011
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Shooting a clay bird on a berm/backstop is dangerous?
Shooting a clay bird on a berm/backstop is dangerous?
Shooting a clay bird on a berm/backstop is dangerous?
I don't think so......just not allowed. so it's not ok to do it.
SEE RULE 22 ABOVE
However, I ask you - do you ever go above the speed limit in your car? Do you ever drive and text, or talk on a cell phone while driving? I bet you are guilty of one or more of these infractions - all of which are potentially dangerous to you and the people around you. I imagine you wouldn't appreciate it if, upon noticing you doing one (or more) of those activities, I followed you to your destination and then proceeded to explain what I saw, that it's against the law and for you to not do it again. Why is this? Do you not like people telling you what to do? Are YOU above the rules?
Shooting a clay bird on a berm/backstop is dangerous?
Yeah, I didn't think anyone would be dumb enough to do that.
Care to answer this question?
Shooting a clay bird on a berm/backstop is dangerous?
Yes, I'll answer it. Because we are talking about firearms and not cars. As such, there have ALWAYS been "serious" safety rules, for which one should adhere. Violate the speed limit, get a ticket, maybe. Violate a range rule, and someone might get seriously hurt. To continue to argue against such is rather adolescent. You might as well say, "What's the big deal?" Don't want to play by the rules? Stay home, or start your own range. You do have options. Come to ENSF and start fingering your weapon FOR ANY REASON, and this fat, old balding, late 40, 6'-1" 280 lb guy is going to be right square in your grille, with bad breath and nose hair asking rather sternly that you kindly remove your head from your youthful @$$.
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I guess you can't read, either.
For one, I am far from youthful.
Two, I dont touch any firearms during cold range time. I was suggesting that someone who blew a gasket over a scope being dialed in on an open action rifle might have been a little too extreme.
And while you might not agree (mainly because it destroys your logic) operating a car is also a big time responsibility with potential deadly consequences - hence why there are speed limits and traffic laws - and you too would flip out if someone approached you about your ignorance of a speed limit, or even worse, a traffic law like operating a cell phone while driving - which probably kills people on a higher percentage than touching a firearm while cold is called at a gun range.
Both rules should be followed, however enforcing it should done respectfully, and when appropriate by an actual authority.
I read fine. What is being destroyed here, is your adolescent ego. You've been told "no", so you continue ask, "but why not?"
Safety, on a range is EVERYONE'S business. With that said, if someone breaks into my house, I don't wait for the appropriate respectful measure of actual authority to be applied. You're trying to use your worn traffic analogy as if it were akin to firearms safety, as if they were equal, in order to marginalize proper range safety etiquette. They are not. If you cannot understand why you don't handle weapons IN ANY MANNER while people are down range, again, please let me know when you are going to ENSF, so I can stay the h#ll away.
So here "Johnny", let me break it down for you. Because if you allow people to touch the bolt, then they touch the magazine. Then they load the magazine, and if you say something to them, they respond with, "But what's the BIG DEAL?" Soon, someone gets "accidentally" shot, because Johnny can't follow rules.
We're done here.
There is no option for a dumpster as everyone has came to the same conclusion as us, it will be full of everything except trash generated on the facility.
I am not seeing the safety concern with someone picking up their hulls off of the platform whether it is busy or not. The shells do not just end up off the front of the platform, it is the basic practice of kicking, throwing, or ejecting them there. That is what is going to stop and there will be no means to simply kick them off the platform with your feet after July 1.
No one is expected to go down below and pick up hulls while someone is on the platforms shooting. Simply said, the facility as all state forests are, is trash free. The rules clearly state that all spent casings and hulls should be removed.
Why do you shotgun shooters even shoot there???? .