HiStandards
Active Member
An older gentleman in my gun club used to say, "We don't need Sarah Brady, we're our own worst enemies."
I’m making the assumption that there are a hell of a lot more transactions required than an 80% lower and no one getting the vapors is talking about them. There are tons of things they could be doing but they’re not. Why? Because they know damned well gangs are not the problem they’re trying to solve. The problem for them is that a bunch of hillbillies have effective(ish) guns that didn’t go through the system they control.
And how is buying 15 paperweights illegal? What can the prosecutor do about legal paperweights?
Sounds like the prosecutor doesn't have the guts to stand up for law-abiding people by burying criminals under the jail after conviction of something that is illegal.
Makes you wonder what the four people arrested at the Morgantown show were charged with? I know a felon is prohibited from possessing a firearm, are they also prohibited from owning firearm parts?
As a result of these investigations, agents seized five fully assembled ghost guns, four 80% receiver kits, one 80% receiver, one Smith and Wesson revolver, extended magazines and more than 1,000 rounds of ammunition.
https://www.attorneygeneral.gov/tak...-following-morgantown-gun-show-surveillances/
And how is buying 15 paperweights illegal? What can the prosecutor do about legal paperweights?
Sounds like the prosecutor doesn't have the guts to stand up for law-abiding people by burying criminals under the jail after conviction of something that is illegal.
Makes you wonder what the four people arrested at the Morgantown show were charged with? I know a felon is prohibited from possessing a firearm, are they also prohibited from owning firearm parts?
I would imagine constructive intent starts to apply when you are buying slides, barrels, holsters, ammo etc while being a felon.
I. POSSESSION OF A FIREARM OR AMMUNITION BY A PROHIBITED PERSON: 18 USC § 922(g) & (n). Punishable by up to 10 years imprisonment.
I don't want the feds banning things or interpreting laws as they see fit. I want them to actually arrest and incarcerate violent felons so we don't even need to have this conversation. Unfortunately all this social justice BS is allowing prosecutors and judge to completely fail at keeping the public safe. So instead we get these stupid laws that do nothing but restrict our rights.
They obtained warrants based on the suspects' criminal histories and their purchase of 90% kits, assuming (correctly as it turns out) they would find completed kits. The searches seem to have been carried out 3-5 days after the buys... so apparently it took them a little more than 5 minutes with a drill.
This article describing the arrests was linked from the article posted earlier about the promoter banning the kits.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but as soon as you drill the first hole and go beyond 80%, it is legally a firearm, so if you're a felon you're toast, even if the work isn't complete. Also, they had a good chance of finding ammo (and they did), which is also a no-no for a felon.
Like I said before, it sounds like the system worked... so what is the motivation for the ban other than preventing NON-criminals from buying them?
Yep, first drill hole makes it 81% and a firearm, and toast.
I serialized all my 80%’s in case they get stolen. I want them back. If the government was pro-2A and anti-criminal, they could recommend they be serialized, but no requirement for registration would be instituted.
The government is anti-2A and pro-criminal.
No need to come up with anything as complex as constructive intent. Ammo possession by a felon is a crime by itself.
Also, as I mentioned previously, they found completed firearms.
This really sounds like existing laws are working just fine. Law enforcement just needs to learn to utilize existing laws to apprehend the criminals.
The promoter has already stated to one of our members that he was not threatened. I take people at their word. Call the promoter yourself and confirm it:You don't know what the AG threatened the promoter with, IE accessory before or after the fact on various crimes. So to all the people that say screw Eagle arms, try walking in his shoes on this one. It's a no win situation...
I spoke with who I think was the head hauncho a minute ago, he claims no one pressured him, there's gangs buying them 15 at a time, his vendors are applauding him.
I was respectful and gave him my opinion/that I would discontinue business with him until he reverted his decision. Here's his contact info if you're interested.
Call:*(610) 393-3047
Email:*info@eagleshows.com
Prosecutors need to use existing law to put away criminals. Cops can arrest all they want but it's worthless if the lawyers let them out immediately.
? The venders applauded him? If they were so concerned about selling ( 15 kits to one individual) then set a limit. I claim BS. Eagle buckled. Done with them
That's interesting.
May I ask how you serialized them? Where did you obtain a serial number? How did you affix it to the rifle/receiver? Did you record the serial number with any organization or just your own private records?
Thanks.
Technically if you so much as mark where the hole goes.