dose anyone own a H&K 93?

[BLACKTALON]

vector no long has H&K style guns on there website. Also price has jumped from 1600 to 2000 is there any middle of the road between vector and century?

 

[Scott7891]

vector no long has H&K style guns on there website. Also price has jumped from 1600 to 2000 is there any middle of the road between vector and century?

Well like Atlantic said they are still getting Vector H&K's from Vector. Vector's website has not been updated in a long time anyway. As far as in between, Century, Vector, and the original H&K's are the only game in town for 5.56 H&K 33 style firearms unless you buy a parts kit and do-it-your-self or pay a custom builder.

Also there are plenty of sites that I saw still selling Vector H&K's for under $1300.

 

[sailskidrive]

C93...

You may want to check out the dedicated Hk forum http://hkpro.com.

They have a TON of info on the C93s; I have a PTR91 and was considering buying a Hk93 or clone. The biggest issue with the C93 is the bolt gap. Many of the Century builds start to open up after a few hundred rounds. The mating of the barrel to the receiver can be an issue and sometimes they have problems with the trunion loosening up.

I know for a fact that Henderson Arms out of Henderson, NV will check the bolt gap on any of the C93s they sell so that you know what you're getting into. They can be found on Gunbroker.com. Also, the Hk forum has a member named "GhillieBear" who does low volume custom builds at a reasonable price; his guns supposedly are of higher finish quality than the original factory Hk 93s and run without issues...

I personally decided to pass on a C93 after actually holding one. The early ones had low grade mil-surp furniture with a very poor paint job.

good luck.

 

[trbon8r]

Do the Vector guns have U.S. made barrels as I suspect, or are they original HK barrels? If they use the typical lowest bidder domestic made barrels, that would be a no go for me. I would also be curious to know how many, if any of the components are actually made by HK?

 

[SCARCQB]

Also dose anyone know Gun shops that have some that I can hold and see what I like? Looking to spent 500-1200

Keepshooting.com in Waldorf has them in stock.

 

[BLACKTALON]

Keepshooting.com in Waldorf has them in stock.

thank you I will have to take a look when I am home next

 

[Atlantic Firearms.com]

Vector does not maket to the retail public so they do not list all items on the web site the Vector V93 is currently being built with original barrels not US and they are on sale via our web site for around $1050.00 .

 

[Atlantic Firearms.com]

 

[Atlantic Firearms.com]

Here is a link to a brief You Tube Virtual Gun Tour


http://www.youtube.com/user/AtlanticFirearms

 

[BLACKTALON]

your website says it is 223 is the barrel 223 or 5.56?
Also dose anymore know of any H&K style rifles that shoot 5.45x39?

 

[BLACKTALON]

I dont want anything with a U.S barrel is that sad to say or what lol

 

[jawn]

I dont want anything with a U.S barrel is that sad to say or what lol

I get where you're coming from, but its not a CETME.

 

[Scott7891]

Do the Vector guns have U.S. made barrels as I suspect, or are they original HK barrels? If they use the typical lowest bidder domestic made barrels, that would be a no go for me. I would also be curious to know how many, if any of the components are actually made by HK?

They use factory H&K barrels. Some are 1/7 and some are 1/12. The easiest way to tell the difference is if there is a 178 marked on the barrel. That means the twist is 1/7.

your website says it is 223 is the barrel 223 or 5.56?
Also dose anymore know of any H&K style rifles that shoot 5.45x39?

None. That is a "Commie" round. H&K experimented with a 7.62x39 version during the Cold War to compete with the AK but seeing as how popular and numerous the AK already was they scrapped it.

PTR makes a 7.62x39 version that uses AK mags but uses a U.S. barrel.

 

[Scott7891]

I dont want anything with a U.S barrel is that sad to say or what lol

If it is a U.S. designed firearm then obviously you want that barrel. Other than that I agree with you. Aftermarket barrels made in the U.S. for foreign rifles are crap for the most part.

I would only buy a U.S. barrel for a foreign rifle if said company guaranteed they built the barrel by the same exact-to-a-T factory specs, using the same equipment, and using official factory blueprints.

Gives me an idea to start a company like that

 

[BLACKTALON]

You would make a killing.. lol

 

[jawn]

PTR is proud to share barrel OEM relationships with Green Mountain and Thompson Center. These barrels are provided to PTR in blank form and are then profiled and chambered in house. PTR’s barrels vary in length, 8.5”, 16”, 18”, and 20”. PTR offers military “stepped” style and match grade style barrels, and some types of barrels are fluted for aesthetics and heat dissipation. PTR “C” models offer barrels with a welded compensator for consideration of your specific state laws.

http://www.ptr91.com/faq/

From the PTR website.

Take that how you will.

 

[Scott7891]

http://www.ptr91.com/faq/

From the PTR website.

Take that how you will.

Green Mountain barrels was originally a black-powder barrel builder AFAIK.
They only recently got into the foreign rifle barrel game because of the 2005 ban on quality imported factory barrels.
The barrels are not hammer-forged, not chrome-lined, and use more iron than normal which makes it more prone to rust unless properly maintained on a regular basis.
Century uses these barrels for their builds. They are nowhere near the quality of the foreign barrels longevity wise or factory specs. They may have the same accuracy but lack long-term durability especially if you shoot frequently.

 

[midcountyg]

You may want to check out the dedicated Hk forum http://hkpro.com.

They have a TON of info on the C93s; I have a PTR91 and was considering buying a Hk93 or clone. The biggest issue with the C93 is the bolt gap. Many of the Century builds start to open up after a few hundred rounds. The mating of the barrel to the receiver can be an issue and sometimes they have problems with the trunion loosening up.

I know for a fact that Henderson Arms out of Henderson, NV will check the bolt gap on any of the C93s they sell so that you know what you're getting into. They can be found on Gunbroker.com. Also, the Hk forum has a member named "GhillieBear" who does low volume custom builds at a reasonable price; his guns supposedly are of higher finish quality than the original factory Hk 93s and run without issues...

I personally decided to pass on a C93 after actually holding one. The early ones had low grade mil-surp furniture with a very poor paint job.

good luck.

This post here says all you should need to know about the C93. Once the bolt gap is out of spec, usually from a failing front trunion, the gun is dangerous to fire. The cost of repairing is more then you would pay for another gun. Go Hk, or if you can't afford HK go Vector or PTR. Beware of used early model PTRs, as they had soft trunnions, but the newer ones are good to go. I have had dealings with both the Vectors and the PTRs, and they are quality rifles. But there is no true substitute for a genuine HK.

 

[BLACKTALON]

I think I will just save and buy one in a few years the H&K are out of reach

 

[aquaman]

I think I will just save and buy one in a few years the H&K are out of reach

If you have to wait that long you might as well scrap that idea altogether and get soemthing better for a little less like a SCAR