Um, no. The AMA has not authority over a license. It is the State medical board. I am not clear on what you are saying in the first part of your post. Are you implying that a doctor can get his/her license pulled for asking you these questions? If so, then you are again dead wrong. It is really hard to lose you license. Asking questions that are recommended by most medical societies is not something that will get your license suspended.
Doctor Interrogation warning!
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Hah! I'm one of his patients. He spotted my CMP tee shirt immediately.
I sure felt right at home!
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It is interesting how this thread has turned into doctor bashing. Most of us doctors are pro-gun. I can't remember the source, but recently came across an article which stated that is it estimated that 40% of doctors in "free states" carry concealed. There are a few out there that are liberal. However, most anti-gun doctors are just ignorant. Many become pro-gun or neutral after being introduced to the sport.
Some docs just like some liberals just don't get it and feel that a "gun" is the source of all evil in society. They are getting bombarded by studies and articles funded by the Brady bunch and Bloomberg like finding organizations which bias them further.
Some docs just like some liberals just don't get it and feel that a "gun" is the source of all evil in society. They are getting bombarded by studies and articles funded by the Brady bunch and Bloomberg like finding organizations which bias them further.
Nicholas A.
Member
I was referring to the original posting, that after stating that you do not wish to continue those questions and that they dont need that information. Report them, or at least that is the basic of what was said. I am sorry for any confusion and if I am completely wrong then by all means disregard my post
You can't report someone for doing something they are "supposed" to be doing. Doctors by and large are a private business. We talk a lot about freedoms. This becomes a 1A issue. They can ask what they feel is relevant. We may not like it or agree with it, but we can't suppress speech we do not agree with. Take your business elsewhere or just answer "no". With all the new regulations, taking your business elsewhere is not likely going to be an easy option for the future. If I need to document particular answers to get paid, I am going to play that game. How you answer is your business.
ENT Shooter
Member
I agree with Teratos. Teratos and many others actually try to keep your medical record from looking like your diary or your confessions to a priest. Others are meddlers and crusaders and can record the most heinous things. I have seen it (sexual deviations, and other unmentionable things). You don't even have good access to your complete record to check for accuracy.
Many patients are painfully honest. They feel that an overabundance of info is helpful to us in their care. They are trying to do the right thing. Patients just need to realize that the data gets checked off in a box now and lives on in the medical record that is increasingly flowing out of the hands of the doctor you told it to.
So, Just limit the data you give which will be recorded. Be smart and a little less forthcoming on things that are not pertinent to your care.
Many patients are painfully honest. They feel that an overabundance of info is helpful to us in their care. They are trying to do the right thing. Patients just need to realize that the data gets checked off in a box now and lives on in the medical record that is increasingly flowing out of the hands of the doctor you told it to.
So, Just limit the data you give which will be recorded. Be smart and a little less forthcoming on things that are not pertinent to your care.
jcarpenter
Member
Can't believe all this
I am reading here of doctors telling me to lie to other doctors but do it intelligently. How the h*ll do I know where the borders are? This is BS. When I go to my lawyer I don't worry about what I tell him. He is my advocate. He doesn't put my information into a database and send it to the government. You're telling me that talking to my private doctor is like talking to social services - toe the line - careful what you say- to get out of there without saying anything wrong.
What is wrong with this picture? Christ, let me go to the pantry and unroll myself a new tinfoil hat. Maybe I need to wrap my whole head.
The founders must be spinning in their graves.
John C
I am reading here of doctors telling me to lie to other doctors but do it intelligently. How the h*ll do I know where the borders are? This is BS. When I go to my lawyer I don't worry about what I tell him. He is my advocate. He doesn't put my information into a database and send it to the government. You're telling me that talking to my private doctor is like talking to social services - toe the line - careful what you say- to get out of there without saying anything wrong.
What is wrong with this picture? Christ, let me go to the pantry and unroll myself a new tinfoil hat. Maybe I need to wrap my whole head.
The founders must be spinning in their graves.
John C
There are some things that are important to your medical care and some things that aren't. Put your man pants on and figure out which is which.
What we have is the government taking over the medical industry and gathering information under the guise of "public health". Some of us don't like what we see and are trying to avoid people ending up in various databases. Insurance companies and ultimately the government (if/when we have a one payer system) have access to what goes in to the electronic medical record. I'm sorry you can't see it for what it is. It doesn't take a genius to figure out where the "borders" are. If you can't, PM me, I'll help you.
Bolts Rock
Living in Free America!
Thank God dad was a doctor and I have at least a clue what is and isn't appropriate. I stick to the issue at hand, this can however be problematic if your left elbow feels like it's been crushed by a truck and gonna fall off because you shoot High Power prone with a godawfully tight J.H. Weller sling. Well you see doc, I wear this 10 pound coat and this monster freakin' glove in this position with your basic stirrup leather wrapped like this and this anchored here and probably 30 pounds of pressure....yeah that only kinda works. Turned out to be arthritis and a couple bone chips floating around inside causing the pain, still hurts enough to bring tears to my eyes sometimes but at least I know why.
As for silly questions try this:
Doc- Do you have X at home?
You- Basil.
Doc- No, do you have X at home?
You- Fork.
Doc- What?
You- Oh, I thought we were playing ask stupid, non-applicable questions and give stupid, non-applicable answers.
As for silly questions try this:
Doc- Do you have X at home?
You- Basil.
Doc- No, do you have X at home?
You- Fork.
Doc- What?
You- Oh, I thought we were playing ask stupid, non-applicable questions and give stupid, non-applicable answers.
almiller1963
Active Member
You and I are almost on the exact same page on this one . Except I prefer asking what the relevance is for the question. From the DRs response it looks like like the truth is the government wants to expand their intrusion into our private business. Hey I have nothing to hide but still don't like big brother in my life any more than it already is.....
Now where did I put my tin foil?
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Most doctors have no clue. They are just doing what they are told they should do. Remember, most doctors got where they are by being conformists. That behavioral pattern continues.You and I are almost on the exact same page on this one . Except I prefer asking what the relevance is for the question. From the DRs response it looks like like the truth is the government wants to expand their intrusion into our private business. Hey I have nothing to hide but still don't like big brother in my life any more than it already is.....
Now where did I put my tin foil?
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Report this to MedStar.
Again, what do you think you are reporting? The doctor is asking what Medstar expects him to ask. This isn't a rogue doctor pushing an agenda. Medstar doesn't care that you are offended. They will think you are brain damaged for complaining.
Mr H
Unincited Co-Conservative
It's an agenda, pushing a compliant doctor.
almiller1963
Active Member
I agree with you here.....
DRs are not the problem. Our government is the problem and we need to vote to fix it.
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Correct. Complaining will fall on deaf ears. This is what docs are expected to ask.
BINGO!
Of course, trying to get the doctors to think about this issue in an objective manner will help tremendously. Being rude, as some advocate, will not help. I talk to colleagues as much as I can about the issue. Hearing level-headed questioning of the evidence from patients is not a bad thing either.
I agree that being rude is never the correct approach. It goes both ways though. If my doctor that I've seen for the past 10 years asks me these questions during a checkup, I'd be more inclined to answer. When a receptionist hands out a sheet to fill out along with the medical insurance and privacy paperwork asking these questions, I will refuse every time.
It's just a matter of principle. These are invasive questions about behaviors that are political (unfortunate, as that is).
