- Nov 11, 2009
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Let's see, it's a designated collector form. Why not say that you want to collect firearms?
Designated Collector PROS AND CONS
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Let's see, it's a designated collector form. Why not say that you want to collect firearms?
MauiWowie
I have the SIGness...
Here is my main CON for the designation....
honda53s
Ultimate Member
haha. Got all of my gifts for my family already except my dad.....AK47?
itsslow98
Ultimate Member
you just giving me your Rem 700 SPS?
Darkemp
Ultimate Member
I've been a MD Designated Collector for 7 years now and a C&R holder since earlier this year. No cons except trying to figure out how to maximize space management for acquisitions.
I finally got my letter the other day. A major Pro for me is now I can transport firearms for purpose of private display not just directly to from home,range,gunsmith.
Vic
Ultimate Member
This is a good thread. I have been back and forth on this myself. I guess my greatest concern is having a paper trail lead straight to my house. If the Government decides to register or confiscate guns they can go right to this one place and find out who all the evil gun guys are. I try to fly under radar as much as possible.
It is kind of like facebook. I see some people have their entire life on this thing. If a felon were able to access this they could steal your entire life before you knew anything was amiss. Maybe I am just paranoid.
I have also thought about getting a suppressor for hunting squirrels and vermin. However, again you have to register yourself and I don't like to do that.
Has anyone had any trouble by registering with MSP for Designated Collector status, or Class 3 permit to have a suppressor, or with the state to have more than 5 pounds of powder on hand? Guess I am a big brother hater. Kind of strange since I work for DoD.
Vic
It is kind of like facebook. I see some people have their entire life on this thing. If a felon were able to access this they could steal your entire life before you knew anything was amiss. Maybe I am just paranoid.
I have also thought about getting a suppressor for hunting squirrels and vermin. However, again you have to register yourself and I don't like to do that.
Has anyone had any trouble by registering with MSP for Designated Collector status, or Class 3 permit to have a suppressor, or with the state to have more than 5 pounds of powder on hand? Guess I am a big brother hater. Kind of strange since I work for DoD.
Vic
honda53s
Ultimate Member
to finish sighting in....sure!!!!
FFMike
Ultimate Member
Vic, They can still get your info from MSP if they wanted too. I don't see any cons other then what I may not only shell out for future purchases, but what a divorce attorney may cost me as well!!
honda53s
Ultimate Member
Vic, it is a tax stamp you get when you buy a NFA toy, not a permit.
As far as MSP hassling anyone, after becoming a designated collector, it hasn't been posted here. I have been a "collector" for at least five years and nothing.
BTW, have you bought at least one regulated firearm in MD? If so, MSP has your data.
You do realize that on the application, you do not list any guns or serial numbers. On the 77R form, there is a check box to check to say you are a collector. It allows MSP to verify if you are, in case you have multiple purchases going on within a 30 day period.
SCARCQB
Get Opp my rawn, Plick!
A Cruffler is not a glazed pastry that one can get at the local doughnut shop, nor is a Cruffler something that an automobile exhaust system specialist can help you with. Let me back up a bit.
Since 1968, in order to legally receive a firearm shipped across state lines, the recipient must possess a valid "Federal Firearms License" issued by the United States Department of the Treasury, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (BATF). There are many types of these licenses; for dealers, for manufacturers, for importers, and for collectors. Of all of them, the collector license (known as a Type 03 license) is unique in that it does not permit the licensee to engage in a business, but rather its provisions are specifically designed to enable the collector. Furthermore, the holder of a Type 03 license is restricted to receiving firearms that have been classifed by the BATF as "Curios or Relics." That is, any firearm that was demonstrably manufactured 50 years or more prior to the current date, and/or is on a special "Curios or Relics List" published by the BATF.
As a result of these specializations, the Type 03 Federal Firearms License is known as the Curios and Relics Federal Firearms License. Abbreviated, this becomes C&R FFL, or CRFFL. Now, CRFFL, if you were to try to pronounce it, would come out something like "cruffle." Hence, the holders of these licenses have taken to referring to themselves as CRFFLers, or CRUFFLERS. So, we have a whole new lexicon:
CRUFFLER: Noun. Originally the holder of a Type 03 (C&R) FFL, but now anyone who has an interest in old, historical, or just plain weird firearms for which ammunition is usually hard to come by.
CRUFFLE: Verb. To seek out old, historical, and weird firerams to shoot, study, admire, and place in historical context. Includes engaging in ceaseless research, correspondence, and conversation about same. Also requires a refinement of fiscal priorities (Hmm. . . .I can eat this week, or I can get that all-matching Norwegian .30-06 conversion K98k. . .).
CRUFFLING: Active Participle. For a true Cruffler, this is often equated with breathing. . .
Since 1968, in order to legally receive a firearm shipped across state lines, the recipient must possess a valid "Federal Firearms License" issued by the United States Department of the Treasury, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (BATF). There are many types of these licenses; for dealers, for manufacturers, for importers, and for collectors. Of all of them, the collector license (known as a Type 03 license) is unique in that it does not permit the licensee to engage in a business, but rather its provisions are specifically designed to enable the collector. Furthermore, the holder of a Type 03 license is restricted to receiving firearms that have been classifed by the BATF as "Curios or Relics." That is, any firearm that was demonstrably manufactured 50 years or more prior to the current date, and/or is on a special "Curios or Relics List" published by the BATF.
As a result of these specializations, the Type 03 Federal Firearms License is known as the Curios and Relics Federal Firearms License. Abbreviated, this becomes C&R FFL, or CRFFL. Now, CRFFL, if you were to try to pronounce it, would come out something like "cruffle." Hence, the holders of these licenses have taken to referring to themselves as CRFFLers, or CRUFFLERS. So, we have a whole new lexicon:
CRUFFLER: Noun. Originally the holder of a Type 03 (C&R) FFL, but now anyone who has an interest in old, historical, or just plain weird firearms for which ammunition is usually hard to come by.
CRUFFLE: Verb. To seek out old, historical, and weird firerams to shoot, study, admire, and place in historical context. Includes engaging in ceaseless research, correspondence, and conversation about same. Also requires a refinement of fiscal priorities (Hmm. . . .I can eat this week, or I can get that all-matching Norwegian .30-06 conversion K98k. . .).
CRUFFLING: Active Participle. For a true Cruffler, this is often equated with breathing. . .
I have found the MD Collector status to be very useful when getting pairs of firearms with consecutive serial numbers. I found it really useful when my wife and I wanted to buy two pairs (i.e. 4) SMOKEWAGON Pistols for our SASS set up. We got all four with consecutive serial numbers and all in just one week (i.e. the waiting period).
hailtoby
Running with the Devil.
I was "awarded" designated collectors status with out purchasing a single regulated firearm in MD.
Im not sure that that the MDSP verifies each applicant to ensure they have a sizeeable collection before signing their paperwork.
Im not sure that that the MDSP verifies each applicant to ensure they have a sizeeable collection before signing their paperwork.
Vendicator
Active Member
- Nov 5, 2010
- 220
I turned 21, and only bought 1 pistol. I have my Collectors status. You do NOT need to have a collection of firearms already.
My collection currently just consists of my Taurus 1911
For now anyway...
Dattrini85
Man of few words.....
Hey guys, to what address do I mail the form?
MDGolom
Ultimate Member
Mail to:
Firearms Registrations Section
1111 Reisterstown Road
Pikesville, MD 21208
Just so happens I have my form in my laptop bag ready to mail.
Firearms Registrations Section
1111 Reisterstown Road
Pikesville, MD 21208
Just so happens I have my form in my laptop bag ready to mail.
Dattrini85
Man of few words.....
not true.
2 weeks ago i was at Bass Pro and heard the sales guy there tell a lady who was buying her son a ruger lcp that "maryland was only about money(true) the collectors designation cost $100 and gives the state police access to your collection."
it took everything i had not to correct him on the spot, had it not been a gift purchase i probably would have. they also filled out the paperwork for the lady WTF
not true.
2 weeks ago i was at Bass Pro and heard the sales guy there tell a lady who was buying her son a ruger lcp that "maryland was only about money(true) the collectors designation cost $100 and gives the state police access to your collection."
On of my handgun students had a similar incidnet with Bass Pro. The clerk told her she needed a handgun permit from the MD State Police before she could purchase a handgun. Needless to say, she believed him and statered the process for getting a Carry Permit.
Like you I have been there at the counter and heard some very misleading statements, not to mention unsafe gun handling by Bass Pro staff.
