Freeze frame from our video with me being detained for questioning by US Capitol Police because a Loon lied to LE that our group announced "that we want to shoot black people".
Actually our whole group heard her make the statement that "you all just want to shoot black people don't you!!!"
She then found LE and reported we had said it.
Just another day dealing with loons.
Yes, I asked one of our crew to roll video on the "interview" with me, and we did, and we have it.
I am quite convinced the US Capitol Police wanted to know more about who we were. I first tried to resist the intrustion by telling the USCP Detective I would decline to ID myself, and had no obligation to do so because this was not a traffic stop. He said I did not have a choice, that he was conducting "an investigation" into threat statements (that never happened, obviously). I declined a second time, and asked if I was being detained. He said yes, I was being detained.
Seeing handcuffs up next I relented and identified myself. I insisted that I be provided a copy of a public record of this investigation. He refused, now saying the investigation was "internal". This is what led me to believe they were doing intel collection, and were told by higher ups to get info on activists like us, no matter what.
No much you can do when, as a firearms owner, you want a record free of arrests.
Strategy #1- Convince the Ofc you are solid citizen from the get go, in the probable anticipation of clearing up everything on the spot.
Strategy #2- Imeadately go all 1st, 4th, 5th amendment on him. You will have strong defense at trial.
There are time and place for each. Switching strategies mid interaction is tricky at best.
No ...you should cooperate...
Its very possible that you will be set up one day..
Be nice...record the interview as its public..
No need to be pissy...a false police report still needs to be investigated. The sooner you show your good guy colors the stupider the opposition looks.
You can ask..." Did I do something wrong?"...much better than " am I being detained ? Both are non responsive but the first is compliant... very important to set that tone..
By asking if you did something wrong you are acknowledging their authority in principle, but not conceding that it applies to the present facts..
Now if they answer...you are getting info...you are interviewing them ..very often they will bleed info at this point...but if you go all " am I being detained? " they will shutdown.
You want them relaxed...you want them to bleed information...just like they want to get you to speak
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You did good...but no need to go defensive right away...
At least in my opinion..
Strategy #1- Convince the Ofc you are solid citizen from the get go, in the probable anticipation of clearing up everything on the spot.
Strategy #2- Imeadately go all 1st, 4th, 5th amendment on him. You will have strong defense at trial.
There are time and place for each. Switching strategies mid interaction is tricky at best.
To esculate part way through interaction is *simple* but not easy. Least ways, most people once they start talking, get an inkling things not going their way, they double down and dig themselves deeper. You have to know the "when" to invoke, and the fortitude to carry thru.
As noted above Invoking from the start, or otherwise prematurely, will often put the other side into full adversarial mode . A adversarial mode is not the same as a criminal conviction, but is generally not pleasant even when you prevail. If you are a 4th/ 5th activist on purpose, this is what you do, hoping to set 4th/ 5th precedents.
Does anyone have a contact for the Pink Pistols DC Chapter ?
We should join forces with them on August 13th. Now is the time to coordinate messages.
Beooooo! thanks Bill for the bump for our next Patriot Picket event. Folks go to the event thread for up to date info: