Delegate Ready's Inquiry to MSP About Wait Time fot Regulated Armsimes

[Ranger Tom]

Received the following email from Del. Justin Ready

"Dear Friends,



I have been receiving a number of complaints from constituents about the unprecedented waiting period times for the delivery of regulated firearms. In some instances I have heard cases of nearly 90 days. I wanted to let you know that I have begun a process which has asked the Department of Maryland State Police (MSP) to resolve this serious issue.



Below is a letter which I sent to Secretary, Colonel Marcus Brown about this ongoing problem and bring attention to this issue. I am currently waiting for the official response from MSP and will be sure to pass along any further information as it becomes available.



Sincerely,



Justin Ready



May 20, 2013



Col. Marcus Brown

Superintendent of Maryland State Police

Department of Maryland State Police

1201 Reisterstown Road

Pikesville, MD 21208

Dear Col. Brown:



I have been receiving a number of complaints from my constituents regarding the extended wait times for approval of receiving purchased regulated firearms. In light of Governor O'Malley's signing of SB 281, I do understand that the demand for these firearms has increased and staff has not. However, wait times exceeding seventy days are being reported.



The law requires a seven day waiting period. With people waiting ten times than that, this issue needs to be addressed and resolved. I am writing to find out what measures are being taken within MSP to resolve this wait time or, at the very least, bring it down.



Perhaps a notification to gun store owners letting them know would be a good step forward to notify them of their rights and ability to release firearms when wait times surpass seven days.



I am looking forward to your reply and would be happy to work in a collaborative fashion to offer ideas or alternatives. You can reach me at 410-841-3070 or Justin.Ready@house.state.md.us.



Again, thank you for taking the time to address this issue and helping individuals exercise their right to bear arms.

Sincerely,



Justin Ready

Member, House of Delegates"

 

[04RWon]

And still no response?

 

[Ranger Tom]

And still no response?

Brown is probably waiting for owemalley's direction.

 

[04RWon]

Brown is probably waiting for owemalley's direction.

Scumbag.

If it was a speeding ticket or tag light or something stupid like that they would have an answer.

Ohh, and want it done instantly

 

[mopar92]

I was gonna say it was just posted today then noticed the letter was sent 5/20/13.

 

[johnnyb2]

Does anyone know the reason MSP called and informed FFL dealers that it was ok to release on the 8th day....IF that was what happened? Did this recent lawsuit I have read about have a BIG part of the motivation behind this recent decision>? CURIOUS people....JUST WANT TO KNOW :-)

Thanks for any info...and thanks to anyone who had ANY LITTLE PART of making this happen!!!

 

[dblas]

Is Ready even aware of the MSI/AGC/MDLFDA lawsuit? Does he even care?

Perhaps riding the coat tails of the lawsuit to get some publicity?

 

[04RWon]

Here is all the information I received from my research. Please, please, PLEASE! Challenge my information and use the numbers and email address to contact these people and verify the information. It does not get any easier that this.

Quick summary:
-MD law requires 7 days from the day the paperwork is submitted until the day the firearm is picked up.
-MSP has 7 days to issue a disapproval. If there is no response within 7 days, the firearm may be released.
-Federal law requires 3 days to receive a response for NICS. If no response is received, the firearm may be released.
-It is MSP's problem to retrieve a firearm from a prohibited person. This is not a kick down the door at midnight process. MSP will contact the person and ask who they would like to transfer the firearm too. (Im sure if someone on the FBI's most wanted list bought a firearm the door kicking may be an option)
-MD law automatically puts you in compliance with Federal law.




ATF:

On 5/1/2013, I spoke with the ATF. I called 202-648-7090 EXT 5. I was transferred the voicemail for a "Specialist". I received a call back from the phone number 202-648-9999. He confirmed that MSP is correct, after 7 days the firearms may be released. He explained that MD law is more restrictive than Federal. So as long as the FFL is compliant with MD, he is ok. He also confirmed that it IS MSP and ATF that will come get the firearm. However, they WILL NOT be kicking down your door. It actually is them saying you cant own it, who do you want to transfer it too. He would not give me his name. He told me the same thing that Thomas Williams from MSP told me. That all this information is on the paperwork, the NICS website, and I believe the ATF website as well. He also said this is all compliant within the Brady Law. He wont give anything on official letterhead because its already printed in the laws. REPEAT THIS IS ALREADY PRINTED IN THE CURRENT LAWS. HE COULD NOT STRESS TO ME ENOUGH THAT FFL'S SHOULD KNOW THESE LAWS SINCE THEY ARE SUCH A BIG DEAL FOR THEIR BUISNESS.


MSP

Here are the emails I exchanged with Thomas Williams from MSP. You can see his email address, the date, and time of the emails. Please, feel free to challenge this info and contact him yourself.

Why dont you have your ffl call?

On Apr 30, 2013 9:21 PM, <xxx@yahoo.com> wrote:
I appreciate your assistance. Just one more question. I just want to be clear. This means that a NICS transaction number has not been aquired by the 7th day and its still legal for the FFL to release the regulated firearm. I know this is slightly repetitive to what I have asked but this is basically how my FFL asked me to word it.
Thanks,
John


On Apr 30, 2013, at 21:03, Thomas Williams -State Police- <thomas.williams@maryland.gov> wrote:

The ffl is well aware of the law. He knows what he is doing and in his defense he does not wish to release a firearm unless he has some assurances the person is not prohibited. Your ffl already has the phone number for the Licensing Division as well as the contact persons information. He is certainly welcome to call me but he already knows the answers.
Tom

On Apr 30, 2013 8:30 PM, <xxxx@yahoo.com> wrote:
Thank you for the reply. Would it be possible to recieve that on a document to show to my FFL? Or possibly a contact phone number incase they have any questions?
Thanks,
John


On Apr 30, 2013, at 19:51, Thomas Williams -State Police- <thomas.williams@maryland.gov> wrote:

That is correct. A licensed firearms dealer may release the firearm after 7 days if they have not received a hold or disapproval from the MSP.

On Apr 30, 2013 4:45 PM, <xxxx@yahoo.com> wrote:
Good afternoon sir,

I sent an email to you previously, however I'm not sure that it went through. If it did, I'm sorry to have sent this one as well. I am inquiring about a email that was posted that is said to be from you. The email states that Maryland FFL's may release a regulated firearm after the 7 day wait without getting a response from Maryland State Police. I dont believe everything I see on the internet and wanted to go to the source to verify the information. If this is true, would it be possible to get official documentation, perhaps on Maryland State Police letterhead and get it to FFL's? I would also like volunteer my services to assist in any way of getting this information out there or assisting in any way with the transfer application process. Thank you for your time, and I hope to hear from you soon.

Thanks,
John

 

[Ab_Normal]

Is Ready even aware of the MSI/AGC/MDLFDA lawsuit? Does he even care?

Perhaps riding the coat tails of the lawsuit to get some publicity?

Does it matter? A good attack comes from many different angles when possible.

As for Delegate Ready, he seems to be very open and communicative with his constituents. Definitely something not seen often in politics and probably why you are somewhat skeptical.

At this point I am happy to say I voted for him.

 

[highwayheat]

Here is a link to the Public Safety Article 5-123 covering the 7 day waiting period. The wording of the statute in the link was confirmed by a hard print law reference book.

http://statutes.laws.com/maryland/public-safety/title-5/subtitle-1/5-123

 

[Ab_Normal]

Here is a link to the Public Safety Article 5-123 covering the 7 day waiting period. The wording of the statute in the link was confirmed by a hard print law reference book.

http://statutes.laws.com/maryland/public-safety/title-5/subtitle-1/5-123

That 7 days more than covers the federal 3 days. There is no requirement for a response before completing the transfer just like the federal forms.

There has also been a lot of hubbub over the word 'may' vs 'shall'. I read that to mean that the licensee MAY not transfer unless they get approval. There are provisions in the law for licensees to transfer firearms to people without waiting 7 days who have demonstrated an urgent need (with government documentation I presume) and are not police officers with official letters from their department.

 

[hvymax]

Gee maybe he should mention the steady decreases in MSP submissions to NICS even with the extra hours and personell.

 

[fightinbluhen51]

Does it matter? A good attack comes from many different angles when possible.

As for Delegate Ready, he seems to be very open and communicative with his constituents. Definitely something not seen often in politics and probably why you are somewhat skeptical.

At this point I am happy to say I voted for him.

When elected officials start tinkering in the mold of "investigation", the exec branch tends to do one of two things: 1) change its tune or 2) stonewall.

Lets hope more delegates/senators do this.

Do the MDGA reps have staff at their Annapolis offices year round? I think I'll call my 2 delegates and lean on them, remind them it's an election year and we need this fixed.

 

[eruby]

Is Ready even aware of the MSI/AGC/MDLFDA lawsuit? Does he even care?

Perhaps riding the coat tails of the lawsuit to get some publicity?

Ready is a good guy and very much on our side. NOT a political maggot.

 

[crowleycr]

I have forwarded this information to Delegate Bohanan and asked him to step up. Besides being a huge infringment, there is a public safety issue developing when large concentrations of fire arms present themsevles to criminals.

 

[ianmcall]

Check out

Delegate Smigiel's Blog

He sas an extensive update pertaining to the MSP 8 day wait and the legality of releasing.
Came out yesterday.

 

[iH8DemLibz]

God forbid a gun shop with a large stockpile of regulated firearms gets broken into or an all out day-time assault/robbery by a bunch of hardened criminals takes place.

How would the STATE spin that one?

 

[Lou45]

Is Ready even aware of the MSI/AGC/MDLFDA lawsuit? Does he even care?

Perhaps riding the coat tails of the lawsuit to get some publicity?

Either way, the "State" being hammered by as many angles as possible will usually get results one way or another. I don't think it's a publicity stunt with Justin Ready. Recently another political figurehead (I'm not trying to speak negatively about this person, so don't take it as such) announced that all FFL's should release on July 3rd. His article/announcement was 06/01/13, the same day (or day after) MSP announced directions for FFL's to release after 8 days; this could have been a publicity stunt as it's VERY EASY to call the winning horse AFTER the race is over.

Ready is a good guy and very much on our side. NOT a political maggot.

This ^^^

Initially I was a bit skeptical of Ready but he was endorsed by a person (very pro 2A and devout conservative) that knows him very well. After careful consideration and examination of Justin Ready, I pulled the lever for him and have been pleasantly surprised with him since.

 

[notme0255]

And still no response?

Had to go in for review and they're still in Mid-March

 

[Patrick]

Is Ready even aware of the MSI/AGC/MDLFDA lawsuit? Does he even care?

Perhaps riding the coat tails of the lawsuit to get some publicity?

Ready is a good guy who works for his constiuents. Of the many people up there, I would not assign him to the crowd that always wants to be in the paper. I don't know his personal ambitions that well, but I doubt they extend through the government. In other words, he is more a real person who is doing this for the right reasons, than one who is trying to whore his way deeper into the machine.

He's not a pro shooter but he would come to me with questions and wanted to learn more. The more he learned, the more interested he got in helping.