Define “Assault Weapon,” Please!

[Boats]

An assault weapon is whatever the law says it is.

Like women!

"we will know it when we see it"

The classic definition of an assault rifle holds that the firearm must meet five specific criteria…

1) It must be a carbine;
2) it must fire a medium power cartridge;
3) it must fire from a locked breech;
4) it must be fed by a detachable magazine,
and
5) it must be select-fire.

It doesn’t have to have a pistol grip…it doesn’t have to have a bayonet lug…it doesn’t have to have a polymer stock…it doesn’t have to have a collapsible or folding stock…it must meet the above five criteria.

Any rifle that fires high power ammunition such as 7.62x51, .30-06, .303 Brit, 7.62x54 or similar…are Main Battle Rifles such as the M1 Garand, M1903 Springfield, SMLE, 1891 Mosin-Nagant…bolt-action…Semi-automatic…select-fire…they’re not assault rifles.

No amount of legislation changes that definition…as much as antis want. To legislatively define these as assault rifles is like changing math to read 2+2=5 instead of four…but the law is the law even if wrong until it can be properly changed to reality and facts.

The pro-gun side should take at least some responsibility for the misuse of the term “assault rifle”…they’ve been promoted as such and referred to that way for years. It sounds hot and sexy to use the term…no matter how wrongly.

Sorry for the thread drift. Rant over.

You are correct. But an assault RIFLE is an actual thing. An assault WEAPON is a made up political buzzword

 

[Rockzilla]

"I am confident there is a technical definition of what is an assault weapon, and it was assuredly used in the context of the statute that previously existed banning assault weapons," Mayorkas responded.



taking lessons from Kamala Harris "word salad" class 101

-Rock

 

[HaveBlue]

"I am confident there is a technical definition of what is an assault weapon, and it was assuredly used in the context of the statute that previously existed banning assault weapons," Mayorkas responded.



taking lessons from Kamala Harris "word salad" class 101

-Rock

Mayorkas was the US Attorney for the Central District of Commiefornia for several years before and after the Fed AWB was passed. That was a big deal back then. How could he not know what was banned by Federal law??

 

[K31]

"I am confident there is a technical definition of what is an assault weapon, and it was assuredly used in the context of the statute that previously existed banning assault weapons," Mayorkas responded.

In other words, made up sh|t from some congressional staffers who were given the "Big Book of Guns" coffee table book and told to pick out scary looking ones. And no, that's not sarcasm.

 

[Cold Steel]

It's like pornography...I'll know it when I see it!

That's good enough to base a law on, right?

We need to trust our politicians more.

 

[Bob A]

The classic definition of an assault rifle holds that the firearm must meet five specific criteria…

1) It must be a carbine;
2) it must fire a medium power cartridge;
3) it must fire from a locked breech;
4) it must be fed by a detachable magazine,
and
5) it must be select-fire.

It doesn’t have to have a pistol grip…it doesn’t have to have a bayonet lug…it doesn’t have to have a polymer stock…it doesn’t have to have a collapsible or folding stock…it must meet the above five criteria.

Any rifle that fires high power ammunition such as 7.62x51, .30-06, .303 Brit, 7.62x54 or similar…are Main Battle Rifles such as the M1 Garand, M1903 Springfield, SMLE, 1891 Mosin-Nagant…bolt-action…Semi-automatic…select-fire…they’re not assault rifles.

Thanks for your rant. Points taken.

Where might one find the source of your classic definition?

 

[Boats]

Thanks for your rant. Points taken.

Where might one find the source of your classic definition?

Assault rifle is the literal translation of sturmgewehr, which was the first of the breed, the StG 44. Assault rifle has defined that type of weapon ever since, and the definition was defined by the creator of that gun, Hugo Schmeisser

And again: Assault rifle is a thing. Assault weapon is a made up term.

 

[TheOriginalMexicanBob]

Thanks for your rant. Points taken.

Where might one find the source of your classic definition?

As Boats said...that's what the term is based upon. Where I originally got it was from the 1980s but can't remember exactly where...I just remembered it. I believe for a long time...until political correctness took over...the Pentagon defined the term as such. I even listed that definition when testifying before the MGA in either 1993 or 1994...but of course they ignored it.

 

[Combloc]

Assault rifle (select fire):


NOT an assault rifle (semiauto only):


It's a small thing, but it's all the difference in the world.

"Assault style rifle" is a false construct used for propagandistic purposes. It's a lie.

 

[Boats]

Assault rifle (select fire):


NOT an assault rifle (semiauto only):


It's a small thing, but it's all the difference in the world.

"Assault style rifle" is a false construct used for propagandistic purposes. It's a lie.

This!

Gun grabbers glommed onto the concept of "assault weapon" because "assault rifles" were already banned/heavily regulated. It also allowed them to be blissfully ignorant of how a firearm actually works, and instead group firearms that look scary together into a single group.

Not. one. more. inch.

 

[babalou]

Assault rifle is the literal translation of sturmgewehr, which was the first of the breed, the StG 44. Assault rifle has defined that type of weapon ever since, and the definition was defined by the creator of that gun, Hugo Schmeisser

And again: Assault rifle is a thing. Assault weapon is a made up term.

wish I had one. That company who supposedly bigfooted them - you know rumours of it's sighting but no concrete evidence of it's existance was to build one model in its original 8MM (7.92x33) Kurz. I would love one. I almost purchased the .22LR version at Chantilly a number of years ago.

 

[Bob A]

Assault rifle is the literal translation of sturmgewehr, which was the first of the breed, the StG 44. Assault rifle has defined that type of weapon ever since, and the definition was defined by the creator of that gun, Hugo Schmeisser

And again: Assault rifle is a thing. Assault weapon is a made up term.

As Boats said...that's what the term is based upon. Where I originally got it was from the 1980s but can't remember exactly where...I just remembered it. I believe for a long time...until political correctness took over...the Pentagon defined the term as such. I even listed that definition when testifying before the MGA in either 1993 or 1994...but of course they ignored it.

Thank you.

Hugo Schmeisser for the win. Can't get much more primary than that source.

 

[KJackson]

Someone may try and shut down the TV station that published this fair and honest news article.

 

[PorP]

man I wish he would. Love Sen Kennedy

I can define assault weapon...

My Bersa 380 thunder.... that POS assaulted me everytime I fired it.

 

[44 Bulldog]

I found an assault weapon. Maybe one might say ‘so called’ assault weapon. I reached into the bin of brianns advanced research projects.

View attachment 408255
Note: Not a copy of an actual issue weapon (to my knowledge)

Look close it also has feet, it might run down the street and hurt someone. LOL

 

[Biggfoot44]

So why is the AR15 not an assault weapon? I'm thinking you mean the AR-15 is not an assault weapon but at the same time the M1 Carbine is?

An M1 Carbine isn't . But an M2 Carbine is .

 

[Biggfoot44]

I found an assault weapon. Maybe one might say ‘so called’ assault weapon. I reached into the bin of brianns advanced research projects.

View attachment 408255
Note: Not a copy of an actual issue weapon (to my knowledge)

Note to self : Do Not appendix carry .

 

[brianns]

An M1 Carbine isn't . But an M2 Carbine is .

Is that an M-2 in the picture?

 

[Biggfoot44]

To expand on Mexican Bob :

The Original - Original definition in the 1940's was * Medium PRESSURE * ctg . By the '80s , it evolved to Medium POWER to include the plethora of 5.56 & equivalent weapons .

 

[brianns]

Note to self : Do Not appendix carry .

That’s prohibited by the manual of arms for that weapon system. They can only be appendix carried separately or maybe in the event of an acute appendicitis.