current ATF wait time

[genexd]

Just received a disapproval for my form 1 sbs submitted in February. Denied because it fit the definition of an "assault weapon". Can anyone help provide documentation on the legality of a sawed off 8" barrel 16" overall length sxs? It was my understanding that since it is not "semi auto", it would not qualify as a copycat. Any guidance would be much appreciated.


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[outrider58]

Just received a disapproval for my form 1 sbs submitted in February. Denied because it fit the definition of an "assault weapon". Can anyone help provide documentation on the legality of a sawed off 8" barrel 16" overall length sxs? It was my understanding that since it is not "semi auto", it could qualify as a copycat. Any guidance would be much appreciated.


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Hope this helps. 26" minimum OAL

Maryland State Police
Licensing Division
ADVISORY
LD-FRS-14-002 - REVISED
May 2, 2014
Short-Barreled Shotguns and Short-Barreled Rifles
This Advisory is being published in response to a number of inquiries received by the Firearms
Registration Unit. Citizens and firearms dealers alike have questioned whether or not short-barreled
rifles or short-barreled shotguns are regulated in Maryland.
I. Definitions
has:
Maryland Law, Criminal Law Article ("CR").§ 4-201(f), defines "short-barreled rifle" as a rifle that
1. One or more barrels with one or both measuring less than 16 inches long; OR
2. Has an overall length of less than 26 inches AND was manufactured from a rifle
either by alteration or modification.
CR § 4-201(g) defines "short-barreled shotgun" as a shotgun that has:
1. One or more barrels with one or both measuring less than 18 inches long; OR
2. Has an overall length of less than 26 inches AND was manufactured from a shotgun
either by alteration or modification.
II.Possession
Maryland's Public Safety Article § 5-203 specifically addresses the possession of short-barreled
rifles or short-barreled shotguns. A person may not possess a short-barreled rifle or short-barreled
shotgun in Maryland unless the person,
1. While on official business is
a. A member of the law enforcement
b. A member of the armed forces
c. A warden or correctional officer
d. A sheriff or deputy sheriff; OR
2. Is a citizen who has registered with the federal government the short-barreled
shotgun or short-barreled rifle in accordance with federal law.

 

[Rteele70]

Sent 1/25/16
Cashed 2/5/16
Approved 6/2/16 (according to lady on the phone today)
Received........still waiting

I thought she said July 2nd at first, then I looked at the calendar and saw that was on a Saturday so I figured she must have said June. I only asked about 1 of the 3 so I didn't take up too much of her time. I am new to this, but assume all since all 3 were mailed together with 1 $600 check, they may have all been approved together?

3 Form 4's sent 1/25/16
Check cashed 2/5/16
Approved 7/2/16
Received 7/11/16

I was approved on 7/2, contrary to my previous post

 

[dreadpirate]

Submitted Form 4 (22LR can) 07/08/2016
Submitted Form 1 (22 Charger SBR) 07/11/2016

 

[dreadpirate]

OBTW - the ATF EForm Server is being overwhelmed. The Database is running out of connections (looking at the stack trace I received). This weekend, their server was out of storage space when I tried to upload my trust. Looks like this morning they freed up some space (glad I'm not the on-call guy for that system). Got it all in tonight - but had to spend 15/20 minutes logging in and getting a session with the server. Good luck to those wanting to submit. Just keep trying.

 

[Hawkeye]

OBTW - the ATF EForm Server is being overwhelmed. The Database is running out of connections (looking at the stack trace I received). This weekend, their server was out of storage space when I tried to upload my trust. Looks like this morning they freed up some space (glad I'm not the on-call guy for that system). Got it all in tonight - but had to spend 15/20 minutes logging in and getting a session with the server. Good luck to those wanting to submit. Just keep trying.

The professional IT engineer that I am would *love* to know just what they've got this whole thing running on. I bet it's totally laughable.

 

[MacGuns]

Silencer Shop update posted on the FB just now.

So, we have made it through all the orders through the 11th and most of the 12th. Over 1200lbs of Form 4's and trusts off to the ATF. Over 2 million dollars in tax stamps alone. This is the largest number of Form 4's ever sent to the ATF in one day, ever!

 

[protegeV]

Sweet baby jesus. Buckle up for a long wait.

 

[Wayne1one]

Sweet baby jesus. Buckle up for a long wait.

Thank goodness I'm in front of them.....

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[protegeV]

Thank goodness I'm in front of them.....

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That's what you think.

ATF be like...

 

[Jano]

Just went active on HQL, the questions on the HQL application seemed to be the same or atleast very similar to the atf 4473 form. If one goes active on the HQL does this mean the seven day waiting period for a handgun will be faster. Not sure if this a dumb question but if you pass the HQL shouldnt you pass the atf form 4473. Also the guy at gunshop told me that i have to fill out 7 pgs of forms. New to buying guns.

 

[rsideout]

Silencer Shop update posted on the FB just now.

So, we have made it through all the orders through the 11th and most of the 12th. Over 1200lbs of Form 4's and trusts off to the ATF. Over 2 million dollars in tax stamps alone. This is the largest number of Form 4's ever sent to the ATF in one day, ever!

WOW, very impressive! I've never sent off more than 10 pounds of Form 4s!

 

[Wayne1one]

That's what you think.

ATF be like...

Hilarious! Seems legit, sad part is I wouldn't even be surprised if they did that....

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[Sundazes]

Silencer Shop update posted on the FB just now.

So, we have made it through all the orders through the 11th and most of the 12th. Over 1200lbs of Form 4's and trusts off to the ATF. Over 2 million dollars in tax stamps alone. This is the largest number of Form 4's ever sent to the ATF in one day, ever!

I wonder how many forms that is.
I am glad i sent one last form 1 today today since I eforms was down.

 

[Wayne1one]

I wonder how many forms that is.
I am glad i sent one last form 1 today today since I eforms was down.

10k

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[MacGuns]

Over 2 million dollars in tax stamps alone

10k

Math for the win

 

[genexd]

Hope this helps. 26" minimum OAL



Maryland State Police

Licensing Division

ADVISORY

LD-FRS-14-002 - REVISED

May 2, 2014

Short-Barreled Shotguns and Short-Barreled Rifles

This Advisory is being published in response to a number of inquiries received by the Firearms

Registration Unit. Citizens and firearms dealers alike have questioned whether or not short-barreled

rifles or short-barreled shotguns are regulated in Maryland.

I. Definitions

has:

Maryland Law, Criminal Law Article ("CR").§ 4-201(f), defines "short-barreled rifle" as a rifle that

1. One or more barrels with one or both measuring less than 16 inches long; OR

2. Has an overall length of less than 26 inches AND was manufactured from a rifle

either by alteration or modification.

CR § 4-201(g) defines "short-barreled shotgun" as a shotgun that has:

1. One or more barrels with one or both measuring less than 18 inches long; OR

2. Has an overall length of less than 26 inches AND was manufactured from a shotgun

either by alteration or modification.

II.Possession

Maryland's Public Safety Article § 5-203 specifically addresses the possession of short-barreled

rifles or short-barreled shotguns. A person may not possess a short-barreled rifle or short-barreled

shotgun in Maryland unless the person,

1. While on official business is

a. A member of the law enforcement

b. A member of the armed forces

c. A warden or correctional officer

d. A sheriff or deputy sheriff; OR

2. Is a citizen who has registered with the federal government the short-barreled

shotgun or short-barreled rifle in accordance with federal law.

Thanks outrider! I ended up emailing them back a couple MSP advisories. I hope he changes his mind.


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[outrider58]

WOW, very impressive! I've never sent off more than 10 pounds of Form 4s!

 

[Arcamm]

The professional IT engineer that I am would *love* to know just what they've got this whole thing running on. I bet it's totally laughable.

NT

 

[Arcamm]

NT

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