Clean slate laws

[Inigoes]

Felons are getting gun rights back

Inviting possible Supreme Court fight, judge rules ban on guns for felon unconstitutional

A Chicago judge tossed a felon's illegal gun possession charge finding it unconstitutional in a ruling that could possibly lead to a gun rights fight at SCOTUS.

lawandcrime.com

Since states are starting to pass clean slate laws, a law sealing the criminal record once the setence has been served. We will see more felons allowed to become armed again.

New York will automatically seal old criminal records under law signed by Gov. Kathy Hochul

New Yorkers who've committed crimes in the past will get their criminal records automatically sealed if they stay out of trouble for a certain period of time under a long-awaited bill signed into law by Gov.

apnews.com

 

[RFBfromDE]

MDS has changed my mind on this.

If that's how dangerous you are, don't let them out of jail.

 

[Blaster229]

They paid the price. Restore their Right.

 

[eruby]

Felons are getting gun rights back

Since states are starting to pass clean slate laws, a law sealing the criminal record once the setence has been served. We will see more felons allowed to become armed again.

Good

If you're free to walk the streets, you're free to carry a gun

 

[inkd]

I have no problem with this. If you served your time, you should have your rights restored.

 

[Boats]

Agree with the above. If they are free enough to be in public, restore their rights

 

[dannyp]

i'm torn on this , should the guy who had one too many joints in his bag back in the day be able to buy a gun ? sure . should the guy who committed armed robbery and attempted murder be allowed to buy a gun ? i say no way .

 

[spoon059]

MDS has changed my mind on this.

If that's how dangerous you are, don't let them out of jail.

Until you see the process by which we decide to incarcerate violent criminals... I have no faith in the process.

That said, I'm generally neutral to restoring gun rights because if they want guns, they are getting guns regardless of the law.

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[Occam]

i'm torn on this , should the guy who had one too many joints in his bag back in the day be able to buy a gun ? sure . should the guy who committed armed robbery and attempted murder be allowed to buy a gun ? i say no way .

What about a long kitchen knife or a baseball bat? Can he buy those other frequently used tools of murder? If so, no concerns about him using them?

 

[welder516]

I think many years ago i would have been a Hell-No on this issue, but as i get more education on the issues of freedoms and life in general we all deserve a second chance.
Like with anything in life there are going to be good & bad, but i want a free society and always follow the Constitution as it was written.

 

[outrider58]

They would have to prove they deserve that right restored.

I prefer not to live in a theoretical world.

 

[RFBfromDE]

They would have to prove they deserve that right restored....

....before they are let out of prison at all.

 

[krucam]

I'll also be a quasi outlier here. I'm ok with non-violent felons having their rights restored. Martha Stewart comes to mind! Tax evaders, and many other non-violent felonies out there.

Violent Felons is another story for me.

 

[Tungsten]

Agree with the above. If they are free enough to be in public, restore their rights

The only problem with that philosophy is when Soros- funded DAs are recommending reduced sentencing or plea deals for violent criminals.

 

[Occam]

Violent Felons is another story for me.

But you're OK with them being out on the street with access to a jillion ways to hurt or kill other people, not even counting their bare hands? Are you banking on their promise to society that they won't once again hurt anybody, but just don't trust them to keep that promise if they have a gun instead of a knife?

 

[outrider58]

But you're OK with them being out on the street with access to a jillion ways to hurt or kill other people, not even counting their bare hands? Are you banking on their promise to society that they won't once again hurt anybody, but just don't trust them to keep that promise if they have a gun instead of a knife?

The hard reality is, they DO let those violent felons out, usually way before they have served a complete sentence.

 

[Occam]

The hard reality is, they DO let those violent felons out, usually way before they have served a complete sentence.

This is really my point. It's not about the weapons - any of them - it's about the people and their state of mind/habits/prospects. I don't understand people who think somebody is too dangerous to be around a gun, but not too dangerous to be around my wife or my niece (or me!).

 

[outrider58]

This is really my point. It's not about the weapons - any of them - it's about the people and their state of mind/habits/prospects. I don't understand people who think somebody is too dangerous to be around a gun, but not too dangerous to be around my wife or my niece (or me!).

Okay, I think I was misreading you.

 

[Blaster229]

I dunno. Let them have some note in their NICS about being a felon, and let the FLL decide if he wants to sell it. Dumb idea, just brainstorming.

 

[Inigoes]

I prefer not to live in a theoretical world.

That is what we have now.

Our rulers thought they could create different classes of people who would play by the rules. They found out that criminals are going to what they want no matter what...