BREAKING NEWS: GANSLER ASKS 4TH CIRCUIT FOR STAY

[theBIGone2087]

I love reading these opposing briefs... Almost brings a tear to my eye...

 

[fightinbluhen51]

I don't buy that for a second. One can't do what you've done for as long and as well as you've done it and be considered an amateur practitioner of obfuscation.



"Two weeks!"

It'll come when it's ready. I don't say that just to continue to be coy (well, it's part of it ) but we won't sit on it any longer than necessary. Promise.

I sure as hell hope it's the announcement of a streamlined application process after the stay is permanently dissolved w/o a new one issued from CA4. But that's just me (and my speculation).

 

[fightinbluhen51]

These suppositions should be afforded no weight as they
are the mere guesswork of officials of the very government which seeks to enforce this
unconstitutional provision. Ironically, these same officials are afforded the
opportunity to obtain a permit without showing a “good and substantial reason.”

OWWWWWWWWWW

This seems like a home run...but I am reminded of Harry Kerry. "That ball is hit to deep right field...is it fair or foul? IT IS!" Meaning, don't forget, this is still a best guess with the motions panel.

 

[BenL]

This is where I really have to try to be devil's advocate in my own head, because I read something like this and truly can't see how CA4 could give gansler a stay.

 

[fleaman64]

POS politician!

 

[lx1x]

This is where I really have to try to be devil's advocate in my own head, because I read something like this and truly can't see how CA4 could give gansler a stay.

thats my gut feeling too..but been wrong before..

 

[Knuckle66]

Heller recognized an individual right to self defense through ownership of an
operable handgun. The right is one of self defense – not defense of home or property.
Naturally, the right to defend one’s personal safety and security travels with the
Appeal: 12-1437 Doc: 60 Filed: 07/31/2012 Pg: 16 of 41
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person. It is absurd to suggest, as the defense must, that one’s life and physical safety
are somehow less important in public than at home.


I LOVE IT!!!!

 

[MJD438]

In its desperation, the State effectively threatens potential violence
and harassment by the police as grounds to deny citizens their constitutional rights.

I must admit to enjoying reading these briefs from Gura!

 

[ezliving]

Anyone catch the HUGE typo yet?

page 34/41

Defendants contend that they will suffer irreparable injuries in the absence of a stay of the district court’s ruling. Defendants offer three agreements in support of this contention:

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After reading Gura's brief, I can't imagine the state winning a stay.

It's just as hard to imagine the 4th overturning Judge Legg's decision.

 

[Bob A]

Anyone catch the HUGE typo yet?

Police officers upholstering their weapons?
I like flocked satin, myself.

 

[Dklo]

I'm looking forward to the oral arguments this fall, I see it going something like this


Gansler: "When he went, had you gone, and had she, if she wanted to and were able, for the time being excluding all the restraints, including good and substantial on her not to go also, would he have brought you, meaning you and she, with him to the station?"

Gura: "Objection, that question should be taken out and shot!"

 

[nomo613]

Police officers upholstering their weapons?
I like flocked satin, myself.

yup my dad caught that one. but how about this?

"First, there is no harm to the Defendants in granting a stay"

my father commented that the papers were "artfully drafted"

 

[GTOGUNNER]

Considering the court only gave them the weekend to reply. I think it is a great response. Kudos to Gura , Hansel and staff.

 

[Inigoes]

Now that we've seen both arguments.

What is an average length of time the CA4 takes to rule on a stay?

 

[eyesinpines]

I have a question.

We debated ad nauseum about why it took Judge Legg so long to decide whether or not to lift the stay. Many [myself included] were perplexed why it took "forever", and of course our legal experts explained many times why "forever" actually wasn't.

My question therefore is should we expect a similar "forever" for CA4 to decide upon the stay, or to expect a magical sprinkling of pixie dust to provide a decision by August 8th?

It certainly seems ridiculous to think we could have a stay decision by CA4 within 7 days, given how reasonable were Judge Leggs very lenghty deliberations!

 

[Maverick0313]

Good work again

 

[aberforth]

Holy smokes, surely even the hounds of hell aren't this fierce:

Thus, even at unchallenged face value, the defense position fails.

 

[Les Gawlik]

Anyone catch the HUGE typo yet?

They will file immediate errata for closer scrutiny?

 

[ezliving]

I'm one of the people who do not trust the MSP outright from their demonstrated behavior

Like requiring a signed release allowing the MSP to charter a fishing expedition through innumerable private records, including medical records, for time ad infinitum, just to be permitted to exercise a fundamental constitutional right. Is that the kind of behavior being referred to?

 

[Maryland Hunter]

Mr. Gura