ATF to declare that AR Pistols are AOW

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    Kulak
    MDS Supporter
    Oct 10, 2017
    1,894
    FEMA Region III
    Here’s the problem du jour...

    ATF said braces are legal and you can shoulder the “pistol” that’s NOT an SBR.

    Now, ATF say they’re not legal and are in fact an SBR/AOW and require a stamp AND require it after the fact.

    ATF are making an interpretation, allowing/encouraging public “consumption” (behavior) in line with the new interpretation, allowing that to stand for a period of time THEN ATF are gonna de facto make lots of folks who acted in a compliant manner, non compliant...and thus be breaking “the law.”

    All this of course purposely ignores the wholesale infringement action that BATFE is the principle proponent but not sole proprietor of...


    Welcome fellow criminals.

    Anybody else see that BATFE is putting out a new 4473 to start next month? Top third of front page is a firm to annotate the mfr, model and caliber of your purchase(s)...???

    Don't forget about the third gender option, very important.
     

    Kharn

    Ultimate Member
    Mar 9, 2008
    3,581
    Hazzard County
    Here’s the problem du jour...

    ATF said braces are legal and you can shoulder the “pistol” that’s NOT an SBR.

    Now, ATF say they’re not legal and are in fact an SBR/AOW and require a stamp AND require it after the fact.

    ATF are making an interpretation, allowing/encouraging public “consumption” (behavior) in line with the new interpretation, allowing that to stand for a period of time THEN ATF are gonna de facto make lots of folks who acted in a compliant manner, non compliant...and thus be breaking “the law.”

    All this of course purposely ignores the wholesale infringement action that BATFE is the principle proponent but not sole proprietor of...


    Welcome fellow criminals.

    Anybody else see that BATFE is putting out a new 4473 to start next month? Top third of front page is a firm to annotate the mfr, model and caliber of your purchase(s)...???

    The ATF says the new 4473 is to move the listing of the firearm(s) being transferred to a page seen by the purchaser, instead of being a page only read by the store employee. They also require you write out the number of firearms transferred on that form using words, "one," "two," "six," etc, so it can't be changed by an unscrupulous employee to add additional firearms to hide missing inventory.
     

    Ammo Jon

    Ultimate Member
    Mar 3, 2008
    21,096
    As a person that suffers with disabilities I find this infringes on my rights under the ADA.
     

    FHJ69

    Active Member
    Mar 13, 2011
    458
    Upper PDRMC
    The ATF says the new 4473 is to move the listing of the firearm(s) being transferred to a page seen by the purchaser, instead of being a page only read by the store employee. They also require you write out the number of firearms transferred on that form using words, "one," "two," "six," etc, so it can't be changed by an unscrupulous employee to add additional firearms to hide missing inventory.

    CCCXVII?

    :D
     

    fidelity

    piled higher and deeper
    MDS Supporter
    Aug 15, 2012
    22,400
    Frederick County
    If Biden wins a squeaker, in addition to AR/AK pistols with braces, wonder what else the ATF might pursue through reclassification - semi-automatic rifles, green-tipped 5.56 (they tried in the past), frequency of private sales by individuals, etc.
     

    FHJ69

    Active Member
    Mar 13, 2011
    458
    Upper PDRMC
    If Biden wins a squeaker, in addition to AR/AK pistols with braces, wonder what else the ATF might pursue through reclassification - semi-automatic rifles, green-tipped 5.56 (they tried in the past), frequency of private sales by individuals, etc.

    I hear the rock-fish are running in the south bay next weekend. I'm think'n about planning a charter. Who's in? :o
     

    FHJ69

    Active Member
    Mar 13, 2011
    458
    Upper PDRMC
    Can we bring all our guns? I hate fishing without my guns by my side...

    Yes sir I think that's a splendid idea!!! I'll leave all my class III stuff at home. You know... needing permission and all that. But everything else, a resounding yes! :party29:

    PS. Clowns really do freak me out. Been that way since I was a kid. LOL!!! :innocent0
     

    teratos

    My hair is amazing
    MDS Supporter
    Patriot Picket
    Jan 22, 2009
    59,849
    Bel Air
    Just take my hand. I'll walk you through it...

    Heh, heh, heh...:D

    A clown is walking into the woods with a kid hand in hand. The kid starts crying. The clown asks “what’s wrong?” The kid says “it’s dark and scary in there”. The clown says “quit yer bitching, I’m the one that has to walk out of here alone...”
     
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    outrider58

    Eats Bacon Raw
    MDS Supporter
    Jul 29, 2014
    50,100
    A clown is walking into the woods hand in hand. The kid starts crying. The clown asks “what’s wrong?” The kid says “it’s dark and scary in there”. The clown says “quit yer bitching, I’m the one that has to walk out of here alone...”

    * laughing-coughing-weezing*

    :lol2:
     

    FHJ69

    Active Member
    Mar 13, 2011
    458
    Upper PDRMC
    A clown is walking into the woods hand in hand. The kid starts crying. The clown asks “what’s wrong?” The kid says “it’s dark and scary in there”. The clown says “quit yer bitching, I’m the one that has to walk out of here alone...”

    Ya'll are seriously creepy. My kind of folk! Just lose the clown suit. LOL! :D
     

    Jed195

    Ultimate Member
    Oct 19, 2011
    3,901
    MD.
    If you woke up in the woods, pants around your ankles, rear end all greased up...would you tell anybody?
     

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