AR10s cash and carry?

[swinokur]

yes. one evil feature is correct.

 

[reckless1911]

Hate to bring back up an old thread, but I need some serious clarification quick. I was at a local gun shop last night and spoke with a sales guy who says that a Smith & Wesson MP10 AR10 WILL BE BANNED due to the fact the barrel is under 20 inches? I planned to purchase one but decided to put it at the bottom of my list for next year after being told a few months ago that its cash and carry and will not be affected. Can anyone confirm if this is true or not? if it is, I seriously need to bump it up my list.

 

[hvymax]

AR10's are Cash and Carry even though some dealers treat anything with a Mag as restricted. Post 281 is less clear but barrels under 20"is BS.

 

[frednek9]

My understanding was because the have two "evil" features(detachable magazine and a flash suppressor) they will be banned after 10/1.

 

[TxAggie]

My understanding was because the have two "evil" features(detachable magazine and a flash suppressor) they will be banned after 10/1.

Detachable magazine is not counted as one of the two criteria.

IIRC the wording is a detachable mag PLUS 2 of the following:

Foldable stock
Flash Suppressor (NOT a compensator, apparently they are OK!)
Grenade launcher

If I'm off, please feel free to correct me.

 

[lx1x]

Detachable magazine is not counted as one of the two criteria.

IIRC the wording is a centerfired semi-auto rifles with detachable mag PLUS 2 of the following:

Foldable stock
Flash Suppressor (NOT a compensator, apparently they are OK!)
Grenade launcher

If I'm off, please feel free to correct me.

fify

 

[jonnyl]

My understanding was because the have two "evil" features(detachable magazine and a flash suppressor) they will be banned after 10/1.

Detachable mag isn't an evil feature itself. I believe that it's worded that rifles with a detachable mag that have any two of the following:.......

So the mag is like a pre-req, but not evil like those horrible flash suppressors and folding stocks.

EDIT: sheesh, I'm slow.... I need to quit paying attention to this stupid conference call!! What they said....

 

[frednek9]

My bad, this bill281 is so dam confusing.

 

[reckless1911]

My bad, this bill281 is so dam confusing.

tell me about it My significant other has be decorating the house this summer and I just to want to rush to spend $1,000 or something right now if I dont need to.... it could be disastrous to my relationship

 

[Jmarko]

Hate to bring back up an old thread, but I need some serious clarification quick. I was at a local gun shop last night and spoke with a sales guy who says that a Smith & Wesson MP10 AR10 WILL BE BANNED due to the fact the barrel is under 20 inches? I planned to purchase one but decided to put it at the bottom of my list for next year after being told a few months ago that its cash and carry and will not be affected. Can anyone confirm if this is true or not? if it is, I seriously need to bump it up my list.

It doesn't have to do with barrel length, it's overall length which I believe can't be under 31". Some one else correct me if I'm wrong

 

[lx1x]

It doesn't have to do with barrel length, it's overall length which I believe can't be under 31". Some one else correct me if I'm wrong

(III) A SEMIAUTOMATIC CENTERFIRE RIFLE THAT HAS AN OVERALL LENGTH OF LESS THAN 29 INCHES;

 

[smdub]

Would take a ~9" barrel to get a M&P10 under 29" OAL You better have a SBR stamp too

 

[reckless1911]

awww..... here is a perfect example

Based on:

IIRC the wording is a detachable mag PLUS 2 of the following:

Foldable stock
Flash Suppressor (NOT a compensator, apparently they are OK!)
Grenade launcher

.... I was was buying this riffle below on 10/2, would I be able to transfer it here...

****Notice there is nothing on the end of the barrel****

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=350668743

 

[Cyclone]

I was under the assumption that the same 7 day waiting period for AR15s applied to them. Is this true? can I really buy one and take it home with no wait even from online?

Online purchase needs to be transferred through FFL...

 

[INMY01TA]

So of you bought your AR10 w/folding stock and flash suppressor before 10-1 then your fine?

 

[jcbvh]

My bad, this bill281 is so dam confusing.

It was written and passed by the stupid. What do you expect

 

[smdub]

awww..... here is a perfect example
...
.... I was was buying this riffle below on 10/2, would I be able to transfer it here...

That one doesn't have ANY evil features. Might as well get one w/ a threaded barrel.

So of you bought your AR10 w/folding stock and flash suppressor before 10-1 then your fine?

ARs don't have folding stocks. Telescoping is not the same as folding per the law (think AK side/under folder, SIG556, etc.) Telescoping is not an evil feature (the text was struck from the law.)

 

[swinokur]

So of you bought your AR10 w/folding stock and flash suppressor before 10-1 then your fine?

yes. What AR 10 has a folding stock? Remember telescoping stocks are still legal after 10-1. Telescoping and folding are not the same as far as 281 is concerned.

 

[EL1227]

awww..... here is a perfect example

Based on:

IIRC the wording is a detachable mag PLUS 2 of the following:

Foldable stock
Flash Suppressor (NOT a compensator, apparently they are OK!)
Grenade launcher

.... I was was buying this riffle below on 10/2, would I be able to transfer it here...

****Notice there is nothing on the end of the barrel****

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=350668743

Yes, I just bought one C&C through Bass Pro.

From the S&W PDF Specsheet - 811310 - Model M&P10 Compliant

 

[TxAggie]

SCAR 17's will be a bit iffy. They have a folding stock, but can be outfitted with a compensator instead of a flash suppressor. I was there the day the house committees debated this and at least in their mind they made a difference between compensators and flash suppressors.

The text of the bill reads:
“FLASH SUPPRESSOR” MEANS A DEVICE THAT FUNCTIONS, OR IS INTENDED TO FUNCTION, TO PERCEPTIBLY REDUCE OR REDIRECT MUZZLE FLASH FROM THE SHOOTER’S FIELD OF VISION.

Compensators aren't specifically designed to redirect flash but rather they are designed to affect the movement of the barrel and/or recoil.