2A Supporters dont care about human lives...

[Catch-This-22]

I enjoy political conversations. I take every opportunity possible to engage people in thought provoking civil discussions and challenge people to consider all sides of an argument before reaching conclusions.

With that said I find it very difficult to engage in discussions regarding the 2nd amendment without getting frustrated because the common talking points used against it don't stand up to even casual objective scrutiny.

We have allowed the media to frame this "discussion" in a manner that "implies" that only 2A opponents cherish their fellow mans life and support a noble cause. We want politicians to acknowledge that most citizens own firearms for protection rather than incorrectly oversimplifying to "hunting and sporting" before a fair discussion can take place.

I believe it is imperative for us to emphasize that our position is based on the same desire to protect our fellow man. Otherwise, we will continue to be demonized by the media and true compromise will be impossible due to uninformed citizen's emotionally based decisions guised as reasonable and logical.

 

[herkybird72]

Every time I hear an un-truth I always counter it then and there with facts both in conversation and in print

 

[MDFF2008]

Agreed. Whenever I see this line of thinking, I ask them if they would be ok with sentencing the people who defended their lives with guns to death in exchange for a gun free society.

99% will dodge the question.

 

[jessebogan]

Unlike the antis, I am willing to step up in the defense of the otherwise defenseless. The best they could do is dial 911, and hope. Which of us is it that values life??

It is hard countering the full court propaganda attack. Especially since hearing facts and truth apparently makes their heads hurt.

Jesse in Rockville
2nd gen NRA life member
GOA member

 

[occbrian]

As soon as I hear, "High ammunition clips" my brain shuts off.

 

[gungate]

I find the best solution for this drivel is a quick chop to the bridge of the nose.

 

[MDFF2008]

But in their world, if we just remove the gun, there will be no crime.

 

[CnC]

Saw the governor of CT on one of the cable news shows recently talking about "30 magazine clips" (he said it over and over).

That clip sure holds a lot of magazines! 30 of em!

Idiot.

 

[Indiana Jones]

I find the best solution for this drivel is a quick chop to the bridge of the nose.

Please dont underestimate the ball kick! Its almost always works.

 

[Catch-This-22]

But in their world, if we just remove the gun, there will be no crime.

Exactly. They ignore the statistics that show crime rates INCREASE and over murder too...just not by guns. They "feel" that guns are a problem and that taking them away from law abiding citizens is good even if it prevents just one murder...

 

[Inigoes]

The Demcratic Party cares about criminals, that's why they repeal the Death penalty!

 

[MDFF2008]

Exactly. They ignore the statistics that show crime rates INCREASE and over murder too...just not by guns. They "feel" that guns are a problem and that taking them away from law abiding citizens is good even if it prevents just one murder...

Part of the problem is they look at body counts. They are content or ignorant with high robbery/rape/assault that you get with gun bans.

 

[BradMacc82]

The Demcratic Party cares about criminals, that's why they repeal the Death penalty!

Gotta keep your voting block alive, although one of their preferred voting blocks are dead...

I care about human lives, just not everyone's.

 

[Catch-This-22]

Part of the problem is they look at body counts. They are content or ignorant with high robbery/rape/assault that you get with gun bans.

I find this to be true as well although in many circumstances body counts go up as well. I usually ask them if we disarm the police if they believe crime would go up or down. People respect and obey the police because of the risk of being shot...not because they carry a badge.

 

[silanehead]

You can talk forever using logic and facts but you will never overcome rabid, venemous emotion. As soon as they realize they lost the dicussion, their violence will surface. At that point a suggestion will be made that you are heartless and deserve a terrible torture or even death.
Shot with your own gun, dragged behind a pickup truck, burned at the stake,drawn and quartered, etc. etc. etc.
Sad

 

[MaxVO2]

Ya. Pretty much what was said above... People go NUTS if you destroy their argument and show them the error in their logic, etc...