2 people fatally shot at Arundel Mills Mall

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  • sailskidrive

    Legalize the Constitution
    Oct 16, 2011
    5,547
    Route 27
    A little history...

    sUntil a little over a year ago I lived about 1/2 mile from the Arundel Mills Mall and I still own property in the area.

    The now bankrupt Mills Corporation faced fierce opposition early on to their development plan by the Harmans Civic Association. A few individuals in particular, Roger Fox, Wayne Dixon, and County Council Woman Pam Beidle deserve significant credit for putting the Mills in check or the development of the property could have gone even far worse than the mess it is today. Originally, the Mills wanted the Mall to be significantly larger with even less parking. Early on there were NYC style labor contract disputes, stolen equipment, work stoppages, loud mouth corporate VPs making threatening remarks and consequently getting fired, literally a "Big Foot" sighting which later morphed into a bear sighting coupled with lots of wildlife management issues as the deer and beavers etc fled the habitat destruction.

    After all of the bickering and negotiating was done I think everyone thought we had a reasonable compromise. The local residents were eager for the out lying parcels to be developed because it meant there be local grocery stores and a few restaurants. By the end of the first year obvious problems related to poor planning began to emerge. Traffic had become a nightmare, there were serious accidents every single weekend on the off ramp from route 100. The Mills Corp began having financial issues and moved to quickly develop block "I" with commercial businesses in direct violation of the agreement they had with the Civic Association. By Christmas the following year the assaults and robberies were starting to happen, especially outside of the area where Best Buy is located. The county established a police sub-station in the Mall, traffic lights went up, ugly plastic dividers were installed to try to fix the off ramp issue. The plastic dividers lasted about two weeks before they were completely destroyed by out of control motorists. Fast forward to today, over the past year my former community has had a handful of assaults, shootings, and other bizarre happenings all from Mall patrons who have found their way into the neighborhood.

    Very few people in Anne Arundel realize the burden that has been placed on that portion of the county: Arundel Mills Mall, BRAC, and westward expansion of the airport (displacing many low income elderly folks who lived there for decades). Frankly, the casino was the latest slap in the face. The worst part is the area provides a disproportionate percentage of tax revenue from all of the businesses, yet the county wont even make good on their promise to build local park after taking the previous one to build a stadium only available to leagues. I plan on selling my remaining property in the area this Spring as I'm sure the casino will attract an even less desirable element than the tactless freak show and gang bangers that show up at the Mall every Friday, Saturday and Sunday. I once had a druggy knock on my door at 0200 asking for "money to buy his daughter medication"! And I'm not going to even drone on about the Israeli Intelligence operation they caught operating out of a "Dead Sea Skin Care Products" kiosk at the mall....

    I bought the house on a VA loan when I was a recently separated serviceman; it was a peaceful 15 year old neighborhood at the time. I never would have guessed that 13 years later I would be honking my way through horrendous traffic and trying to remember to move my vehicles off the street at night. Personally, I blame the former County Exec, Janet Owens; as her wealthy friends in Crofton and Annapolis got new schools while we carried the burden and prayed someone would plow our streets.
     

    Seagrave1963

    Still learnin'
    MDS Supporter
    Feb 6, 2011
    10,363
    Eastern Shore
    And I'm not going to even drone on about the Israeli Intelligence operation they caught operating out of a "Dead Sea Skin Care Products" kiosk at the mall....

    Crap -- my money was on them being in the Russian mob. They were some shifty characters.

    The pervasive (and invasive) "development" was a prime factor in us moving to the suburbs of Ridgely. Hopefully, that will hold off on development for at least 20-30 years (not holding breath though)
     

    JOBU

    Banned
    BANNED!!!
    Aug 14, 2010
    5,528
    STALAG Montgomery
    Within weeks of the "Casino"(re: Baltimore's new drug market) opening, the Bass Pro folks will announce their closing and movement to the Va 'burbs......where this sort of store should've been located in the first place.

    Mark this post fo future ref.

    Who wants to bet the suspect is the female victims boyfriend/husband?


    In PG County they're referred to as "Babbydaddy".
     

    VTX1800

    Banned
    BANNED!!!
    Jul 29, 2011
    399
    AA County
    Arundel Mills Mall is at the tipping point. They will either get their security under control toot sweet or they can make reservations at http://www.deadmalls.com/

    I worked for a major department store anchor at Randall Park Mall in Cleveland when it opened in 1976. It was, at the time, the largest mall in the country. Really, an amazing place.... They lost control of security pretty quickly. AMM is on the same path. http://www.deadmalls.com/malls/randall_park_mall.html

    As a consumer I could care less.
    If they straighten it out great .
    If not , a brand new sparkley even bigger mall in the same general area will open up :rolleyes:
     

    Norton

    NRA Endowment Member, Rifleman
    Staff member
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    May 22, 2005
    122,908
    That link to the news site does not require registration to pot comments....just sayin' :innocent0
     

    kalister1

    R.I.P.
    May 16, 2008
    4,814
    Pasadena Maryland
    I read and left a comment on that page. Needles to say It was NOT in favor of the murderer.
    And to think some people around here complain about grammar? It was hard to read most of those comments, pro or con.
     

    sailskidrive

    Legalize the Constitution
    Oct 16, 2011
    5,547
    Route 27
    I looked up his record:

    Docket Text: Counts: (1) Robbery Deadly Weapon (2) Robbery (3) 1st Degree Assault (4) 2nd Degree Assault (5) Use Of Handgun In Commission Of A Crime Of Violence (6) Robbery Deadly Weapon (7) Robbery (8) 1st Degree Assault (9) 2nd Degree Assault (10) Use Of Handgun In Commission of a Crime Of Violence (11) Conspire To Commit Robbery Deadly Weapon fld. 423.

    And that's just one arrest... He has a previous trial for possessing a stolen firearm, underage possession of a regulated firearm, theft over $500....

    At least the MD approved hand gun list ensured he had stole a quality firearm. :rolleyes:
     

    cowboy321

    Active Member
    Apr 21, 2009
    554
    I go to the mall in the daytime when I want with my wife. I do not carry guns, other weapons. It seems safe enough to me. I like a few stores there. Have bought two firearms at Bass Pro for skeet and hunting. I need to be afraid to go there? Nope....
     

    Todd v.

    Ultimate Member
    Nov 30, 2008
    7,921
    South Carolina
    So you mean gun laws didn't keep us safe from this fellen who should still be locked up? Crazy how the neighbors are ignorant enough to blame the guns... Whatever helps ya sleep at night.
     

    Markp

    Ultimate Member
    Dec 22, 2008
    9,392
    I looked up his record:

    Docket Text: Counts: (1) Robbery Deadly Weapon (2) Robbery (3) 1st Degree Assault (4) 2nd Degree Assault (5) Use Of Handgun In Commission Of A Crime Of Violence (6) Robbery Deadly Weapon (7) Robbery (8) 1st Degree Assault (9) 2nd Degree Assault (10) Use Of Handgun In Commission of a Crime Of Violence (11) Conspire To Commit Robbery Deadly Weapon fld. 423.

    And that's just one arrest... He has a previous trial for possessing a stolen firearm, underage possession of a regulated firearm, theft over $500....

    At least the MD approved hand gun list ensured he had stole a quality firearm. :rolleyes:

    Sounds like a model citizen... :lol2: Hope he was an organ donor on his license... if he had one.

    I really love this though: “This is just a shocking tragedy just to even know that someone can have that capacity, have an AK 47 and a shotgun. It’s just, just appalling,” a neighbor said.

    Only the Police and Military should have both an AK-47 and a shotgun!
     

    sandbanger

    how's it going eisenhower
    Dec 14, 2010
    1,596
    This is why im selling my shit!!!! I live right down the street. buy my gas masks!
     

    Robert

    Having Fun Yet?
    May 11, 2011
    4,089
    AA County, MD
    "“This is just a shocking tragedy just to even know that someone can have that capacity, have an AK 47 and a shotgun. It’s just, just appalling,” a neighbor said."

    ... and there it is.... Hmmm I wonder what he/she means...
     

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