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Dan-o
fly in the wall
Ladies abd Gents, we are beyond politics with this. This is about honoring an oath that so many of us took. It is about our law enforcement officer telling the politicians that they work for the people not the state house. If you are unwilling to allow the guardians to support those whom theu guard then you are for them becoming the right hand of thr oppressors. Thats is something that no free people should countenance.
FrankOceanXray
Ultimate Member
- Oct 29, 2008
- 12,037
It certainly is a shame. Thing is they were on the clock and told to be dressed up ready to be a wallflower. Do t care what you feel. Not paid for your feelings. Paid to take this lawful order,be here at this time in this uniform.
Mr H
Banana'd
I had a great conversation with the Frederick Co. Sherif today, but this didn't come up.
What we do know, is that he is strongly "pro gun", and is mostly disgusted at the other Sheriffs in thew state, as he considers them largely more interested in their own tenure and retirement.
IndispensableDestiny
Ultimate Member
Nuremberg Prosecutor: "Why did you kill all those people?"
Gestapo Man: "I was following orders."
Nuremberg Prosecutor: "Why were these orders given?"
Gestapo Man: "It was the law."
chromedragon70
Active Member
Spoke to a MSP sergeant the other day. He seemed much more worried about the .410 Taurus Judge than an "assault weapon". Says it is too easy for folks to hide and then hit responding officers in the face and eyes with pellets.
His worry would be that gun manufacturers, in response to an AWB, would then try to make guns more lethal within the confines of the ban and come up with more and deadlier close range weapons.
His worry would be that gun manufacturers, in response to an AWB, would then try to make guns more lethal within the confines of the ban and come up with more and deadlier close range weapons.
FrankOceanXray
Ultimate Member
- Oct 29, 2008
- 12,037
Where there is a will, there is a way.
BRONZ
Big Brother is Watching
I got a very good email from Carroll County Sheriff Tregoning.
He is definitely a patriot.
He is definitely a patriot.
So, an LEO (of any position) who had built their family and life around is supposed to speak out against something that is not a law yet and roll the dice if they will have a career the next day?
people are very valiant and cavalier with someone elses life.
Why don't people wait and see what will be law first before commenting about when others should speak out?
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ricanmd
Active Member
So if they are fearful for their Gov't job if they speak out about the constitutionality of a proposed law, then what makes you think they won't have the same fear after it is passed. Would they not have the same recourse in securing their job before and after.
They don't seem to have any fear of speaking out about issues before and after when it comes to their job benefits and union negotiating rights. No problem exercising their first amendment rights when it comes to their job.
reacting to a proposal is different than reacting to an actual law and what you could be ordered to do according to that law. But you aren't in that position to lose your livelyhood if you speak out right now are you? Just because something may go"unsaid" does not mean it will go undone according to their feelings. Someone with 20 years as an leo cannot just go to work for a car dealership or computer job where you work and pick up from where they left off.
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RedWolf762
Active Member
My honest opinion is that when laws are being purposed within a state that are supposed to address any sort of crime or crime prevention, the voices of LE should be heard and their experienced and professional opinions should be held with the highest regard. Most of them would probably not prioritize an AWB, but would rather the state allocate additional funds needed to procure additional staff and resources needed to do their jobs more effectively and enforce the laws currently on the books.
If the law makers really cared, they would invite all areas of law enforcement enforcement for their input. They couldn't care less what me, you and agencies have to say. You know that.
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- Nov 14, 2010
- 20,274
What about these quasi-law-enforcement benevolent, orders, fraternity, associations who are just mouth pieces for the progressive left and their unions ? You know, the ones that peddle those phoney bumper stickers and call you for donations. The sheeple 'think' THEY are representing LEOs when they're paraded on TV along side of Bloomberg, Nutter, and Menino.
LEOs need to have their own true voice, even if it speaks through a larger voice like OathKeepers or behind an anonymous avatar here on MDS.
RedWolf762
Active Member
Sadly, you could not be more correct.
Half-cocked
Senior Meatbag
- Mar 14, 2006
- 23,937
He is also a life-long Democrat, and worked for the MSP his entire life before he ran for office in Carroll County.
Tregoning only stuck an "R" next to his name, after one failed attempt to win election in Carroll as a Democrat.
Lawman1800
Active Member
- Jul 29, 2012
- 144
I will be there on the 6th. I am a Leo and I openly oppose any form of an AWB as we all know it will do nothing to prevent violent crime. As far as what we would or would not do if the proposed AWB passes, this is not really the time or place to disscuss that.
This is true, but would usually go against what the politicians want. Wait and see what gets passed and then listen for "common sense tax increases" to pay for the "safety" of us.
This.
But what they want YOU to do as the LEO, go in uniform and speak for your agency as the official spokesperson. REALLY make your voice heard and get fired. Comon, man up and do it, because if you don't, then you are for an AWB. And they are all pretty sure that you will positively show up on their doorstep during the confiscation phase that is going to hit.
Mr H
Banana'd
I spoke with the Frederick Co. Sheriff at some length yesterday. He is a huge 2A supporter, and very vocal and active in the cause.
In short, he is of the opinion that the rest of the Sheriffs in MD won't lift a finger to help, because it would risk blowback and endanger their tenure and pension.
