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gungate · Apr 4, 2013

wesser1 said:
This type of reaction is what they (gun grabbers) want.

Uh huh.... and next will be, the "We haven't lost yet we'll take it to the SC" BS.

Sorry, my view of this country and state is a bit more jaded and cynical then most. This never had any chance of not passing and certainly now in the 11th hour there isn't even a glimmer of hope.

MJD438 · Apr 4, 2013

Hopalong said:
I would find that highly unusual considering that the content of the bill is considerably different than it was the first time around.

Treachery and tyranny...not like we have not seen direct examples of it already, several times, in both houses, this session...

occbrian · Apr 4, 2013

****** An MSI Executive Member was told by Frosh's aide that SJP will hear SB281 in A CLOSED MEETING. ******

Call Mike Miller's office IMMEDIATELY.

"WHY IS MIKE MILLER ALLOWING THE REVIEW OF SB281 TO OCCUR BEHIND CLOSED DOORS WHEN IT IMPACTS THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS OF MILLIONS OF MARYLANDERS?"

Thomas V. Mike Miller
(410) 841-3700, (301) 858-3700
1-800-492-7122, ext. 3700 (toll free)

trickg · Apr 4, 2013

Hopalong said:
I would find that highly unusual considering that the content of the bill is considerably different than it was the first time around.

And yet it's still the same bill.

Guys, let's be real here - we are way outnumbered in the R vs D department, and the D side is going to resort to every dirty trick they have at their disposal to push this thing through.

I'm not trying to be pessimistic - I'm simply calling it for how I see it. When the smoke clears, as much as I don't really want to be, I'm going to be right.

I keep hearing comments about how the staffers sound rattled. Guys, they expected this - the staffers sound harried because they are - it's not going to change their minds on how they are going to vote for this thing - that was decided well before today.

Maryland Hunter · Apr 4, 2013

Is 4:30 definite? If so, I'm there.:thumbup:

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gungate · Apr 4, 2013

rwbow1969 said:
And here we are in another post spewing this God Damn negative Shit.

mmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmm MMMMMMMMMM

sorry - I just tried wishing "real" hard and really hoping it not to pass but that didn't help either. And in reality, I had just about as much chance as the letters and emails had.

Shinny · Apr 4, 2013

I called Sen Miller's office and was just told 4 pm today

trbon8r · Apr 4, 2013

trickg said:
And yet it's still the same bill.

Guys, let's be real here - we are way outnumbered in the R vs D department, and the D side is going to resort to every dirty trick they have at their disposal to push this thing through.

I'm not trying to be pessimistic - I'm simply calling it for how I see it. When the smoke clears, as much as I don't really want to be, I'm going to be right.

I keep hearing comments about how the staffers sound rattled. Guys, they expected this - the staffers sound harried because they are - it's not going to change their minds on how they are going to vote for this thing - that was decided well before today.

Why don't you save this hand wringing shit until after SB281 passes? Right now it hasn't and all you are doing is discouraging people from doing what they need to do.

rwbow1969 · Apr 4, 2013

occbrian said:
****** An MSI Executive Member was told by Frosh's aide that SJP will hear SB281 in A CLOSED MEETING. ******

Call Mike Miller's office IMMEDIATELY.

"WHY IS MIKE MILLER ALLOWING THE REVIEW OF SB281 TO OCCUR BEHIND CLOSED DOORS WHEN IT IMPACTS THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS OF MILLIONS OF MARYLANDERS?"

Thomas V. Mike Miller
(410) 841-3700, (301) 858-3700
1-800-492-7122, ext. 3700 (toll free)

He said it won't be open to the public. Go figure. CALL ALL OF THE SJP COMMITEE, DROWN THEIR PHONES AND KNOCK THEIR COMMS. OUT.

flyingblind · Apr 4, 2013

Please be observant in person or via the feed at 430, the Senate has rules and they have to follow them

this also came from Shannon

madness3120 · Apr 4, 2013

Closed meeting??hummmmmm

trickg · Apr 4, 2013

rwbow1969 said:
And here we are in another post spewing this God Damn negative Shit.

Dude, back off - I have been with this fight all the way - I went to Annapolis and testified, I've called, I've emailed, and what good has it done? Have you not been watching the tyranny in action? Have you not been paying attention? Did you not see how they overruled an ammendment vote in the Judiciary session so they could revote to get what the party wanted?

There is no way that this bill is not going to be signed into law. That's not being negative - that's being realistic. Our best hope now is in the courts.

madness3120 said:
Closed meeting??hummmmmm

Did I not just say in a post above that they are going to resort to every dirty trick possible to push this thing through. The reason it's going to be closed is so that we don't have a clear picture of who did or said what while our rights are being stripped away.

rwbow1969 · Apr 4, 2013

Just sent faxes titled "RAN OUT OF PAPER YET"

MJD438 · Apr 4, 2013

occbrian said:
****** An MSI Executive Member was told by Frosh's aide that SJP will hear SB281 in A CLOSED MEETING. ******

Call Mike Miller's office IMMEDIATELY.

"WHY IS MIKE MILLER ALLOWING THE REVIEW OF SB281 TO OCCUR BEHIND CLOSED DOORS WHEN IT IMPACTS THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS OF MILLIONS OF MARYLANDERS?"

Thomas V. Mike Miller
(410) 841-3700, (301) 858-3700
1-800-492-7122, ext. 3700 (toll free)

Miller's admin was just really bitchy about this one. She has no idea what we are talking about, has no idea where the President is at the moment, and has no position on why this is being allowed. When I told her I felt it was a violation of the Open Meetings Act and should be reported to the OAG, she said "good luck with that" and hung up.

madness3120 · Apr 4, 2013

eruby · Apr 4, 2013

gungate said:
mmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmm MMMMMMMMMM

sorry - I just tried wishing "real" hard and really hoping it not to pass but that didn't help either. And in reality, I had just about as much chance as the letters and emails had.

Kill yourself.

MDFF2008 · Apr 4, 2013

trickg said:
Right, because all of our efforts to oppose this trash bill really made a difference.

We all know the reality - doesn't mean I'm going to stop trying, but it is what it is.

It takes more time to get on MDS and bitch than it does to make a phone call saying "I oppose SB281."

madness3120 · Apr 4, 2013

busy signal for me

rwbow1969 · Apr 4, 2013

trickg said:
Dude, back off - I have been with this fight all the way - I went to Annapolis and testified, I've called, I've emailed, and what good has it done? Have you not been watching the tyranny in action? Have you not been paying attention? Did you not see how they overruled an ammendment vote in the Judiciary session so they could revote to get what the party wanted?

There is no way that this bill is not going to be signed into law. That's not being negative - that's being realistic. Our best hope now is in the courts.

Back Off. When you and others insist on demoralizing anyone that will listen. Take it elsewhere.

Dude? Really?

JasonB · Apr 4, 2013

So now they don't care about following existing laws while making new ones? Sounds like they are proving all of our points that criminals don't follow the law.

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