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  • ICW2019

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    Franchot is going to be horrible if he wins in November. I have no doubt a direct mirror of New York like previously mentioned will creep up next March and the only place we'll be able to carry is in the car and home.
     

    teratos

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    Franchot is going to be horrible if he wins in November. I have no doubt a direct mirror of New York like previously mentioned will creep up next March and the only place we'll be able to carry is in the car and home.
    Thomas had some comments on sensitive places.
     

    RoadDawg

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    sks972ca

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    Not a chance, IMO. For MD wear and carry applicants, Maryland's Secretary of State Police or the Secretary’s designee still has to make the finding in MD. Public Safety Code Ann. § 5-306 (2021) (a)(6)(i):

    (6) based on an investigation:

    (i) has not exhibited a propensity for violence or instability that may reasonably render the person’s possession of a handgun a danger to the person or to another

    MD is so legally and institutionally unfriendly to CCW as a concept that I doubt they'll accept a non-Maryland CCW unless a statute is passed. Even if some other state made a similar finding in issuing a CCW, I don't see MD ever accepting it. They'd want a MD investigation and an MD determination.


    Reciprocity?
     

    Norton

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    Norton you of all people should be relishing this day

    And thank you sir is in order


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    I'm actually thinking a lot about some other people who are no longer with us like Henry Heymering, Don Foster, Phil Lee, and others.
     

    teratos

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    Not a chance, IMO. For MD wear and carry applicants, Maryland's Secretary of State Police or the Secretary’s designee still has to make the finding in MD. Public Safety Code Ann. § 5-306 (2021) (a)(6)(i):

    (6) based on an investigation:

    (i) has not exhibited a propensity for violence or instability that may reasonably render the person’s possession of a handgun a danger to the person or to another

    MD is so legally and institutionally unfriendly to CCW as a concept that I doubt they'll accept a non-Maryland CCW unless a statute is passed. Even if some other state made a similar finding in issuing a CCW, I don't see MD ever accepting it. They'd want a MD investigation and an MD determination.
    The MD investigation can be as simple as a background check. I'm sure they won't make it easy.
     

    Norton

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    What do retirees do? What happens if you freelance or own your own business? What if you’re just a bum on the street?

    Contacting an employer cannot possibly be a requirement.


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    I dunno. I haven't had the space in my head to dig into this, but if the employer part is indeed in place I am red shirted because my vocation is way too hostile to this and unless I decide to bail, I still have to deal with them
     

    smokey

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    How could he have done this years ago? Pretty sure you are complaining whenever Biden does not follow the letter of the law. Well, Hogan has to follow the letter of the law and G&S was law in Maryland and not unconstitutional until SCOTUS ruled on it in Bruen. Make no mistake, if it was not for the Trump appointments and people not rushing off half cocked running to SCOTUS before the time was right, the ruling could have been 5-4 in favor of G&S being Constitutional. Would you have liked for Hogan to have done this years ago BEFORE the Trump SCOTUS appointments and then have Frosh run to that SCOTUS for an opinion on this matter?

    This is a long game at this point, for which some just do not have the patience.

    Md. Code Public Safety 3-506

    (a) Subject to subsection (c) of this section, the Secretary shall issue a permit within a reasonable time to a person who the Secretary finds:

    (1) is an adult;
    (2)(i) has not been convicted of a felony or of a misdemeanor for which a sentence of imprisonment for more than 1 year has been imposed;  or
    (ii) if convicted of a crime described in item (i) of this item, has been pardoned or has been granted relief under 18 U.S.C. § 925(c) ;
    (3) has not been convicted of a crime involving the possession, use, or distribution of a controlled dangerous substance;
    (4) is not presently an alcoholic, addict, or habitual user of a controlled dangerous substance unless the habitual use of the controlled dangerous substance is under legitimate medical direction;
    (5) except as provided in subsection (b) of this section, has successfully completed prior to application and each renewal, a firearms training course approved by the Secretary that includes:
    (i) 1. for an initial application, a minimum of 16 hours of instruction by a qualified handgun instructor;  or
    2. for a renewal application, 8 hours of instruction by a qualified handgun instructor;
    (ii) classroom instruction on:
    1. State firearm law;
    2. home firearm safety;  and
    3. handgun mechanisms and operation;  and
    (iii) a firearms qualification component that demonstrates the applicant's proficiency and use of the firearm;  and
    (6) based on an investigation:
    (i) has not exhibited a propensity for violence or instability that may reasonably render the person's possession of a handgun a danger to the person or to another;  and
    (ii) has good and substantial reason to wear, carry, or transport a handgun, such as a finding that the permit is necessary as a reasonable precaution against apprehended danger.
    On numerous occasions I was sitting behind or watching the state police representative when he was questioned on "what is a good and substantial reason?" He answered every time there was no specific criteria and they "knew it when they saw it". Hogan could always have instructed the msp to accept "self defense" or "the 2 f^ckin A" as a qualifying "good and substantial reason. He chose not to.
     

    teratos

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    I dunno. I haven't had the space in my head to dig into this, but if the employer part is indeed in place I am red shirted because my vocation is way too hostile to this and unless I decide to bail, I still have to deal with them
    I'm sure you have no interest in being a test case, but imagine if you were blackballed from your job for legally exercising a civil right! Probably not a beast they want to wrestle. Could spell out an amazing retirement after the trial.
     

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