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  • rambling_one

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    Oct 19, 2007
    6,760
    Bowie, MD
    Is being handicapped a good and substantial reason in Md? I've looked and can't find an answer.

    Unfortunately, no. Years ago a paraplegic from Annapolis was denied. More recently, a woman with an HQL and limited to a wheel chair was denied. It’s sickening!
     

    jstolz

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    Aug 28, 2018
    338
    Glen Burnie
    When I was in college. I interviewed a representative from the house. They stated that to achieve one “you need to have an actual reason to fear for your life”. It was an interesting interview.
     

    cantstop

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    Aug 10, 2012
    8,218
    MD
    Without any knowledge of the MD DNC and speaking completely without any factual basis: I would not take the bet that a ranking member of the MD DNC could not get a CCW permit in a minimal amount of time.
     

    rambling_one

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    Oct 19, 2007
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    Bowie, MD
    When I was in college. I interviewed ...a representative from the house. They stated...that to achieve one “you need to have an actual reason to fear for your life”. It was an interesting interview.

    How the hell did we get to this point in our language? Subject/verb (dis)agreement is maddening.
     

    Pinecone

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    Feb 4, 2013
    28,175
    Without any knowledge of the MD DNC and speaking completely without any factual basis: I would not take the bet that a ranking member of the MD DNC could not get a CCW permit in a minimal amount of time.

    Actually, a number of years ago, they passed law to make it even EASIER for elected state officials to get a permit.
     

    rambling_one

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    Oct 19, 2007
    6,760
    Bowie, MD
    Actually, a number of years ago, they passed law to make it even EASIER for elected state officials to get a permit.

    I’ve heard of permits being offered/issued upon being elected (and even at least one case where the permit was rescinded when holder failed in a bid to be re-elected). I never knew there is actually a law making it easier for our “representatives” to get one.
     
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    dblas

    Past President, MSI
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    Apr 6, 2011
    13,110
    I’ve heard of permits being offered/issued upon being elected (and even at least one case where the permit was rescinded when holder failed in a bid to be re-elected. I never knew there is actually a law making it easier for our “representatives” to get one.

    Having worked in an officer of a Delegate that had one, and was there when a new Delegate got one, they have to go through the same process, background check, training, fingerprints, permit fee. I believe the new Delegate got the permit in a shorter amount of time (21 days or so), but still the same process, interviews and all. The Delegate got to keep the permit after leaving office, not sure if they ever got it renewed though.
     

    sbmike

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    Feb 19, 2011
    1,653
    Almost Heaven, WV
    My good and substantial reason for CCW is I now live in a state where a good and substantial reason is not mandated. It angers me every time I think how things could have been when I lived in the Gulag, were it not for the asshats who control everyone's lives in MD.
     

    Nobody

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    Jan 15, 2009
    2,851
    Having worked in an officer of a Delegate that had one, and was there when a new Delegate got one, they have to go through the same process, background check, training, fingerprints, permit fee. I believe the new Delegate got the permit in a shorter amount of time (21 days or so), but still the same process, interviews and all. The Delegate got to keep the permit after leaving office, not sure if they ever got it renewed though.

    A friend of mine is a county councilman. He got his permit just by getting elected. I also know pretty well a former Md Senator that upon no longer being a Senator was denied the renewal of their permit

    Nobody
     

    Occam

    Not Even ONE Indictment
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    Feb 24, 2018
    20,428
    Montgomery County
    My instructor pointed out that “assumes risk” jobs are - while you have them - pretty much a G&S gimmee. Say, being an officer of the court, that sorta thing. I’m sure somebody has made the case that being an elected public official rises to the level of assumed risk by default.
     

    dblas

    Past President, MSI
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    Apr 6, 2011
    13,110
    This happened back in the 90s.

    I don't recall the exact details, but it just made the process easier and more automatic for them.

    Nothing in state statute, that I have found, makes it easier/quicker for a politician to get a carry permit.
     

    Mightydog

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    How about this? Nation of Islam...Farrakhan! Think they’re all gonna have HQL’s or CC permits?
     

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    BeoBill

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    My instructor pointed out that “assumes risk” jobs are - while you have them - pretty much a G&S gimmee. Say, being an officer of the court, that sorta thing. I’m sure somebody has made the case that being an elected public official rises to the level of assumed risk by default.

    That's correct. Being an elected official is an automatic ASSumed Risk. I can't remember where or when I saw/read that. It could have been in a long ago thread here; at a HPRB meeting; or on a PP "Field Trip" to Annapolis.
     

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