smokedog
Ultimate Member
Now I know what to build next. 9mm
gotta be careful when you shoot your wad
They can have a mind of their own. I couldn't rule out a full blown wad to the face, chest, or pelvic area. I could imagine a wad doing some flesh damage to the buttocks as well.
I agree...no 12G hostage shots for me. But I wouldn't be overly worried, at the right distance, of sending the right round down range to hit the target, and only the target.
My house would be too large for my comfort levels. But most apartments or small town houses? I'd be comfortable. The odds of ever needing it is so slim. The odds of a hostage situation even small.
Is it the best...nope. I just didn't see the grandma thing as relevant.
My critique is the "grandma" standing next to the bad guy thing. The correct round, within the correct distance, isn't going to hit grandma. His statement promotes the theory that you "point and fire" a shotgun and it kills everything. I'm in a larger house and would not take wall to wall shots with in. But at hallway distances I'd have zero problems and I'd expect all pellets to be on target. The wad I can't account for.
I agree it likely isn't the best HD weapon. But it's killed many of men throughout history and there's a reason they are so popular.
Did you see the wall with studs and siding behind those 2 pieces? It was even constructed with tvek for a moisture barrier.Two pieces of drywall stacked together is Not the same as actual interior wall with air space inbetween .
Did you see the wall with studs and siding behind those 2 pieces? It was even constructed with tvek for a moisture barrier.
Anyone can easily say "well a round can hit a cabinet with soup cans in it", or whatever.
I think the point is that it was different self defense modes/rounds being tested against each other with 1 consistent media. Which is as close to shooting from inside "a house" as possible. Without shooting from inside a fully furnished house and a human being.
The video is best home defense weapon and not round.
I was hesitant to post this video because I knew it would be parsed down to the molecular minutae of stats, much like the ad nauseum arguments in BMW motorcycle forums about whether SAE or synthetic is better for your engine.
It's a basic video from a guy who has shot more people from inside a dwelling than the combined total of ZERO of all members commenting on this video.
I think a pistol caliber carbine is probably the best for home defense, for the average person. Well, for those who aren't that great with a pistol. Like he said in the very first part.
Now, where's that "bird shot is great" thread again that I have to get to.
Synthetic is better. Everyone knows that.
No way! .40 S&W!
I heard of something like this happening once...scared hell out of me.How can we have a real discussion about what is best without having the .45acp mentioned?
My brothers lawn guy has a friend who has a cousin who's next door neighbors great uncle was a DeltaSealRanger and served with Dick Marcinko in the Mekong Delta and saw a Viet Cong get shot in the pinky toe with a 1911 and the exit wound tore his arm off.
How can we have a real discussion about what is best without having the .45acp mentioned?
My brothers lawn guy has a friend who has a cousin who's next door neighbors great uncle was a DeltaSealRanger and served with Dick Marcinko in the Mekong Delta and saw a Viet Cong get shot in the pinky toe with a 1911 and the exit wound tore his arm off.