An example of why people don't support open or concealed carry

[KJackson]

More fodder for those who do not support any type of carry. Guy carrying (not sure if legal or not) walked up on what he thought was a robbery and opened fire hitting one person. Turn out it was a guy (legally carrying) showing his gun to an Uber driver.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4513886/Army-vet-shot-Uber-driver-thinking-robbed.html

 

[lx1x]

unless your own life or love ones is in imminent threat.. be a good witness rather trying to be judge/jury/executioner wanna be.

(Flame suit on).

 

[knastera]

unless your own life or love ones is in imminent threat.. be a good witness rather trying to be judge/jury/executioner wanna be.

(Flame suit on).

No flame suit needed for me. When we carry, we are not the police auxiliary. We know when we or someone we are with is in danger. We are not always trained in the use of the continuum of force, negotiation, de-escalation, and the myriad of other skills peace officers are trained in. I will only intervene in another person's situation when it is blatantly obvious that life and limb will be lost if I fail to do so.


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[Gryphon]

Show and tell in public, especially in a parking garage at 1 am, is only for those shorted by the gene pool. Of course the guy that rolled up shooting, well intended as he was, has got a big problem. Best part of this article is that they didn't say the clip has been ejected. I suppose most Texans know what a magazine is.

 

[knastera]

Show and tell in public, especially in a parking garage at 1 am, is only for those shorted by the gene pool. Of course the guy that rolled up shooting, well intended as he was, has got a big problem. Best part of this article is that they didn't say the clip has been ejected. I suppose most Texans know what a magazine is.

True about the show and tell. When I am carrying concealed, one of my responsibilities is to not let people know I'm carrying.


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[plinkerton]

No flame suit needed for me. When we carry, we are not the police auxiliary. We know when we or someone we are with is in danger. We are not always trained in the use of the continuum of force, negotiation, de-escalation, and the myriad of other skills peace officers are trained in. I will only intervene in another person's situation when it is blatantly obvious that life and limb will be lost if I fail to do so.


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That should be memorized by every CCW holder.

 

[lx1x]

No flame suit needed for me. When we carry, we are not the police auxiliary. We know when we or someone we are with is in danger. We are not always trained in the use of the continuum of force, negotiation, de-escalation, and the myriad of other skills peace officers are trained in. I will only intervene in another person's situation when it is blatantly obvious that life and limb will be lost if I fail to do so.


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True..

The shooter jumped the gun perhaps.

Based on the article..there were no sign of struggle or cry for help.

 

[Gryphon]

True about the show and tell. When I am carrying concealed, one of my responsibilities is to not let people know I'm carrying.


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Agreed but even if carrying openly the pistol shouldn't be out of the holster in public unless you are LEO performing your duties or a citizen in imminent danger. This jack wagons poor judgment got himself shot and a veteran jacked up for a damn selfie.

 

[protegeV]

Missing brain cells for all 3 parties...

 

[pbharvey]

This story smells a little.
Army ranger guy sees a middle easternish guy pointing a gun at a shirtless guy (both in a car) so he does a mag dump into the side of the car.
Either
A: ranger guy is suffering from some head trash due to his experience overseas
Or
B: Somebody is someone's boyfriend and somebody got hurt feelings

 

[Alphabrew]

unless your own life or love ones is in imminent threat.. be a good witness rather trying to be judge/jury/executioner wanna be.

(Flame suit on).

Totally agree. I can't legally carry but if I could, it would be to protect myself and my loved ones. If someone else is getting robbed, they should have been carrying their own weapon. I'll be happy to call 911 but I am not going to interfere in the situation someone else created for themselves.

This story was just a hot mess of stupidity by everyone involved. Sad.

 

[Alan3413]

If he ever gets his life back, mag dump guy needs to work on his marksmanship. Some​ of the hits are scary close to the passenger

 

[K31]

Not that the guy deserved to be shot in the chest for it, but Uber forbids drivers from carrying.

 

[Biggfoot44]

Ok, I'm confused. Did the Driver or the Passenger initially bring the pistol ? Who was holding said pistol at the critical moment ? Whichever person, were they pointing it at their own head, or the other person's head ? Which person was the vetran attempting to hit, driver or passenger?

 

[Clif]

Wow. This guy went a little nuts didn't he? And then he shot the wrong guy ! The passenger was legally carrying, and showing his gun to the Uber driver so the passer-by puts 10 rounds into the car, shooting who he thought was the victim? All at 1:00AM ? Yeah, a little fishy here.

 

[Biggfoot44]

So did the vetran shoot at the passenger, miss 10 times, and accidentally hit driver ? Or was driver holding gun ?

Is it a new fashon trend in Dallas go barechested in dress slacks, with a tie and no shirt ? If the passenger was the one carrying, he seems to be lacking a cover garmet. Unless he was barechested Open Carrying .

 

[lx1x]

Ok, I'm confused. Did the Driver or the Passenger initially bring the pistol ? Who was holding said pistol at the critical moment ? Whichever person, were they pointing it at their own head, or the other person's head ? Which person was the vetran attempting to hit, driver or passenger?

You're not the only one..

The shooter was confused too..

 

[BeoBill]

Ok, so is this incidence of cephalo-anal occlusion even statistically significant within the carrying population of Texas? I do not believe the Texas sky is falling, and Shannon Watts is in Colorado now.

 

[Name Taken]

Another nothing good happens after midnight case.

Awesome grouping for what it's worth.

 

[lazarus]

Agreed but even if carrying openly the pistol shouldn't be out of the holster in public unless you are LEO performing your duties or a citizen in imminent danger. This jack wagons poor judgment got himself shot and a veteran jacked up for a damn selfie.

Sorry, but that is kind of like arguing it is the woman's fault she got raped.

Yeah, I agree with everything before it being the people in the vehicles fault some idiot shot at them hitting the wrong person.

That is one thing I also wanted to point out, the shooter was either really far away, a horrible shot or was intentionally spraying the car. That looks like a several foot grouping on a stationary target. I'd hope even heat of the moment I could do better at 30-40yds than that.

That is one of those things that also emphasizes how stupid the shooter was being. He obviously was misguided in his marksmanship skills and presentation angle to the situation. He ended up shooting the person who was unarmed in the car after he indiscriminately sprayed the vehicle. He it was even going to attempt to intervene and was confident he needed to, he needed to have withheld shooting until he was closer and/or had a better angle where he wasn't likely to hit the supposed victim of the supposed robbery/carjacking.

Hopefully this doesn't go down as some kind of reckless endangerment, but attempted murder. The shooter on MANY levels should never pulled his gun, let along taken the shot.