2A Tuesday

[Biggfoot44]

2A Tuesday is still a good thing, so long as we maintain critical mass.

Legislative office visits can be varried in your experiencing. Even in worst case situation of cold shoulders and brushoffs , that is still a datapoint they track. One person coming by can be written off as a lone nutjob. A dozen people in same day is a trend. 50 people on the same day is a huge trend. ( And after visiting the people representing your own District, HJC and SJP members are fair game.)

Simply saying " You suck" , or " All you damn @$!#ing ( insult) People Suck " doesn't gain much.

By this time Bills will have been introduced. Refer to Bill numbers, give specific comments, preferably about specific sections. You will have a finite amount of time and/ attention span, better to make specific points about one or two Bills than quickly read a laundry list.

Don't quote the US Constitut or Founding Fathers, you will get tuned out 2sec later.

Know a little about the legiscritters. In your initial greeting throw out any community, volunteer, or professional affiliations relevant to their constituants , or their areas of focus.

Know their areas of personal intrest and focus. For example, if they have a background in Z Civil Rights , focus on the parts of the Bills that effect discriminatory access, due process, or equal protection.

With really large crowds of us might require larger groups, but ideally visits are more than one, and less than five people.

And don't let 2A tues be a one time thing. If you are in the Annapolis area any time after 2A Tue , until end of session, drop by for brief visit, and then continue on your way. Seeing us pop up randomly keeps us on their mind, and realize they can't ignore us.

 

[EL1227]

Caution ...

All points so far have merit.

As for the attendance? It is directly proportional to the perceived threat. Last year, the GA didn't throw a lot at us, and they held off until later to do it. It's proof, IMO, that they know we're here and not going away.

"Our" effort should be multifaceted. The .orgs have a role to play from a nonpartisan legislative perspective, yes... Last year the Rack Pack showed that a "panpartisan" effort can be effective as well.

But, I still say that the most important thing any of us can do is stay involved. Constancy is the key. Stay in communication with your critters, regardless of what side they're on. Most critically, it's as simple being there to testify on ALL bills that interest you, as possible.

Show up, stand up, speak up.

Maryland 2018: The Freed State

Remember, the walls (of this forum) have eyes. "Gun Rights and Legislation > Maryland 2A Issues" is open to all who lurk ... but shaking them up by suggesting multiple angles of attack will keep them guessing until D-Day.

 

[Mike]

Isn't there a hunter's day too? I seem to recall it was the week after 2A Tuesday this year. And I seem to recall that Hogan showed up for that "rally", not 2A Tue. Why do we let ourselves get divided into 2 groups? Maybe better coordination between the sport shooters and the sport hunters to show a united front would have a bigger impact on the 'beer boys' who think they own this state?

 

[Jim12]

More of the FalseSecurityAct 2013's success on parade, today's Naptown Capital headline story:

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What if Kathy Szeliga were to introduce a bill to repeal it as a colossal, expensive intrusion on rights, with no commensurate benefit, and 4,000 people showed up to demand that it be heard?

Or, would M&M, Dumais, Rosapepe, et al take the opportunity to amend it to double down?

 

[swinokur]

Isn't there a hunter's day too? I seem to recall it was the week after 2A Tuesday this year. And I seem to recall that Hogan showed up for that "rally", not 2A Tue. Why do we let ourselves get divided into 2 groups? Maybe better coordination between the sport shooters and the sport hunters to show a united front would have a bigger impact on the 'beer boys' who think they own this state?

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[welder516]

Can someone give a fellow the history of 2A Tuesday ....................sorry in advance.

 

[EL1227]

Isn't there a hunter's day too? I seem to recall it was the week after 2A Tuesday this year. And I seem to recall that Hogan showed up for that "rally", not 2A Tue. Why do we let ourselves get divided into 2 groups? Maybe better coordination between the sport shooters and the sport hunters to show a united front would have a bigger impact on the 'beer boys' who think they own this state?

We did coalesce a certain amount last year when one of the bills introduced (and defeated) was aimed squarely at hunter's rights. I think SB 947 was a wake-up call for Maryland Hunting Coalition who up until that point didn't believe us when we told them in 2013, "YOU'RE NEXT".

Up until then, MHC seemed to think that because Mike & Mike were 'hunters' they were immune to anti-2A creep. Hogan's appearance at their rally, while supportive of hunters, was a photo-op ...

 

[EL1227]

Can someone give a fellow the history of 2A Tuesday ....................sorry in advance.

That person be Mr H ... He'll be along once he finishes his morning coffee,

 

[Biggfoot44]

So Swinkour, was the cartoon a dig against hunters, or a comment that exvessive F*** bashing is counterproductive and devisive?

 

[3 Gun Gal]

Pardon my ignorance, but when is 2A Tuesday? Date and time, please.

 

[EL1227]

Pardon my ignorance, but when is 2A Tuesday? Date and time, please.

Usually the 2nd Tuesday in February, but that could shift depending on this year's legislative agenda. Watch this thread for updates, and join MSI for email blasts.

 

[Stoveman]

I hate to say Stoveman has a certain point.

I convinced my wife to go, carpooled with others. Had a good afternoon. Meeting people, etc.

Until I ventured into meet the Annapolis staff. The contempt on their faces was palpable. They couldn't wait for us leave. No facts would fix this... In this aspect it was a waste of time. They had minds made up.

The time well spent was meeting other 2A supporters.

All points so far have merit.

As for the attendance? It is directly proportional to the perceived threat. Last year, the GA didn't throw a lot at us, and they held off until later to do it. It's proof, IMO, that they know we're here and not going away.

"Our" effort should be multifaceted. The .orgs have a role to play from a nonpartisan legislative perspective, yes... Last year the Rack Pack showed that a "panpartisan" effort can be effective as well.

But, I still say that the most important thing any of us can do is stay involved. Constancy is the key. Stay in communication with your critters, regardless of what side they're on. Most critically, it's as simple being there to testify on ALL bills that interest you, as possible.

Show up, stand up, speak up.

Maryland 2018: The Freed State

2A Tuesday is still a good thing, so long as we maintain critical mass.

Legislative office visits can be varried in your experiencing. Even in worst case situation of cold shoulders and brushoffs , that is still a datapoint they track. One person coming by can be written off as a lone nutjob. A dozen people in same day is a trend. 50 people on the same day is a huge trend. ( And after visiting the people representing your own District, HJC and SJP members are fair game.)

Simply saying " You suck" , or " All you damn @$!#ing ( insult) People Suck " doesn't gain much.

By this time Bills will have been introduced. Refer to Bill numbers, give specific comments, preferably about specific sections. You will have a finite amount of time and/ attention span, better to make specific points about one or two Bills than quickly read a laundry list.

Don't quote the US Constitut or Founding Fathers, you will get tuned out 2sec later.

Know a little about the legiscritters. In your initial greeting throw out any community, volunteer, or professional affiliations relevant to their constituants , or their areas of focus.

Know their areas of personal intrest and focus. For example, if they have a background in Z Civil Rights , focus on the parts of the Bills that effect discriminatory access, due process, or equal protection.

With really large crowds of us might require larger groups, but ideally visits are more than one, and less than five people.

And don't let 2A tues be a one time thing. If you are in the Annapolis area any time after 2A Tue , until end of session, drop by for brief visit, and then continue on your way. Seeing us pop up randomly keeps us on their mind, and realize they can't ignore us.

Meeting with the critters doesn't do squat for about 90% of us. Those of you who live in districts with good guys already know which way they are voting and those of us with reps who will fall in to lockstep behind Mike & Mike it's a waste of time.

If we can identify those who are most vulnerable in 2018 those are the critters we focus on with laser intensity regardless of which district you are in. Nothing like a big huge Patriot Picket right down by Lawyers Mall and then head into these vulnerable Dems office and say "You see that? It's coming to your District next year."

It's time for the voice of the loyal opposition to be the mouth that roared.

 

[Stoveman]

Pardon my ignorance, but when is 2A Tuesday? Date and time, please.

Usually the 2nd Tuesday in February, but that could shift depending on this year's legislative agenda. Watch this thread for updates, and join MSI for email blasts.

My email from MSI said 7 February. Don't remember the time, 10 am?

 

[swinokur]

So Swinkour, was the cartoon a dig against hunters, or a comment that exvessive F*** bashing is counterproductive and devisive?

the latter.

ETA-kinda surprised you had to ask.

 

[Biggfoot44]

That's what I thought, but the post was ambigous on its face.

 

[Mike]

So Swinkour, was the cartoon a dig against hunters, or a comment that exvessive F*** bashing is counterproductive and devisive?

the latter.

ETA-kinda surprised you had to ask.

That's what I thought, but the post was ambigous on its face.

Same here. Just posting a cartoon hunter image without comment was ambiguous and left it open to interpretation as a dig against hunters here (note, I'm not a hunter). At any rate, if there is a hunters rally or such for my 2¢ I think we should join with them too.

 

[swinokur]

I suppose those who don't know me might assume that.

As I posted bashing hunters is not my style. The "pursuit of happiness" is what I'm about.

 

[welder516]

I suppose those who don't know me might assume that.

As I posted bashing hunters is not my style. The "pursuit of happiness" is what I'm about.

Amen brother , i looked at the cartoon and never once thought bad about a hunter .

I love hunters , the ones that bring me deer jerky or bologna are my favorites .

 

[Stoveman]

At any rate, if there is a hunters rally or such for my 2¢ I think we should join with them too.

Not sure that we would be welcome, at least by their leadership. Seriously, the head of the Maryland Hunting Coalition or some such organization got his panties all twisted by the Patriot Picket last year.

I don't think the general membership of would have a problem if we showed up with signs. Maybe.


I'm sure R&R will be along shortly to fill in the details.

 

[EL1227]

Not sure that we would be welcome, at least by their leadership. Seriously, the head of the Maryland Hunting Coalition or some such organization got his panties all twisted by the Patriot Picket last year.

I don't think the general membership of would have a problem if we showed up with signs. Maybe.


I'm sure R&R will be along shortly to fill in the details.

That was MHC's president IIRC ... He's buds with Miller and was working with him behind the scenes on SB 947 when Miller took umbrage to our 'signage'. I think their membership shifted their allegiance somewhat when they felt more like THIS was happening ...