SB1040--Terror Watchlist Bill--NRA-ILA

[swinokur]

correct email

nathaniel.mcfadden@senate.state.md.us

 

[Bikebreath]

I receive many auto replies. I also got one that is lighting a fire under me, from Delegate Deborah Rey, below.

I sent an email to the ACLU and followed it up with phone call to bring it to their attention. They are only in the office Tues. and Thur. from 1-3pm.

I'm nervous.

Doug - I couldn't agree more. Please put pressure on the ACLU to take a position on this legislation today. The Speaker of the House is pushing to get this legislation out despite all members of the Judiciary Committee not supporting the bill. If the ACLU is against it and makes it known, then it might help keep the legislation from coming out.

But it needs to be today or tomorrow, because the train is already moving.

Thanks

Sincerely,
Deb

 

[EL1227]

UPDATE:

EL...

I'm not in a position to do it now, but I'd think Hogan could be wrapped in on this too!

I just sent the Franchot email verbatim to Hogan via the Governor's email website.

Contact Governor Larry Hogan

After all, it's 'all about the Benjamins' ... $$$ and Franklin ...

 

[Bikebreath]

I receive many auto replies. I also got one that is lighting a fire under me, from Delegate Deborah Rey, below.

I sent an email to the ACLU and followed it up with phone call to bring it to their attention. They are only in the office Tues. and Thur. from 1-3pm.

I'm nervous.

UPDATE

I received another email from Delegate Rey:

Doug - I reviewed the testimony from the hearing on the bill and the ACLU did take apposition. They opposed the bill.

Sincerely
Deb

 

[danb]

UPDATE

I received another email from Delegate Rey:

Wait, the ACLU opposed this bill? really??

 

[Schipperke]

Who doesn't think the Terror Watch List Bill passes now..

 

[Jim12]

Is Maryland so political now that we’ve reverted to 1950’s style McCarthyism to achieve our political agendas?

Where’s the due process that even the ACLU says is lacking in putting “suspicious” people onto a list that deprives them of Constitutional Rights, without notice or opportunity to be heard?

This is borderline willful, intentional abrogation of the Constitution and arguably should result in the removal from public office of anyone who supports it. It’s a material violation of one’s Oath of Office.

 

[NY Transplant]

I think the GA needs to be reminded that...

 

[EL1227]

Be SURE to use Delivery and Read receipts

Democrat Emails Senate Judicial Proceedings committee:

bobby.zirkin@senate.state.md.us
nathanial.mcfadden@senate.state.md.us
jim.brochin@senate.state.md.us
susan.lee@senate.state.md.us
anthony.muse@senate.state.md.us
jamie.raskin@senate.state.md.us

Democrat Emails House Judicial Proceedings committee:

joseph.vallario@house.state.md.us
kathleen.dumais@house.state.md.us
vanessa.atterbeary@house.state.md.us
jill.carter@house.state.md.us
david.moon@house.state.md.us
marice.morales@house.state.md.us
susie.proctor@house.state.md.us
pam.queen@house.state.md.us
samuel.rosenberg@house.state.md.us
carlo.sanchez@house.state.md.us
will.smith@house.state.md.us
charles.sydnor@house.state.md.us

Did I miss anyone?

Because you find out who DELETES BEFORE READING ...

Your message

To: Smith, Will Delegate
Subject: HB1000 OPPOSE
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 8:22:29 AM (UTC-05:00) Eastern Time (US & Canada)

was deleted without being read on Wednesday, March 23, 2016 10:34:19 AM (UTC-05:00) Eastern Time (US & Canada).

Anyone care to get 'jiggy with it' ?

Brochin read mine, no response yet.

Your message

To: Brochin, James Senator
Subject: SB1040 OPPOSE
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 8:18:09 AM (UTC-05:00) Eastern Time (US & Canada)

was read on Thursday, March 24, 2016 2:39:29 PM (UTC-05:00) Eastern Time (US & Canada).

Jill Carter didn't read it either ...

Your message

To: Carter, Jill Delegate
Subject: HB1000 OPPOSE
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 8:22:29 AM (UTC-05:00) Eastern Time (US & Canada)

was deleted without being read on Thursday, March 24, 2016 4:48:48 PM (UTC-05:00) Eastern Time (US & Canada).

 

[EL1227]

Self-preservation ...

Wait, the ACLU opposed this bill? really??

They're afraid that when an conservative-dominant Congress convenes, that this bill's attempt to nullify the 5th Amendment and Due Process will be used as a hammer to drive the final nails into their liberal/progressive coffin.

 

[danb]

They're afraid that when an conservative-dominant Congress convenes, that this bill's attempt to nullify the 5th Amendment and Due Process will be used as a hammer to drive the final nails into their liberal/progressive coffin.

I know that the ACLU is opposed to the terror watch list. I am just surprised that they actually filed opposition to a gun bill. I thought they would oppose it more quietly. Did they actually file opposition to this bill? In my mind that would be yuge.

 

[KevinK]

Response from Delegate Curt Anderson:

This bill received a hearing in the House Judiciary Committee on February 26th and there has been no further action. This bill will not move forward.

I guess Mike & Mike haven't put the touch on him yet.

 

[fightinbluhen51]

All right folks, time for a good old fashioned fire mission.

We have it on good authority that the Mike and Mike show are trying to push this bill.

SO, we need everyone to hammer every Democrat we know on both committees to request an unfavorable vote on this bill. No need to hit our friends, the Republican, they are on board, but if it has a (D) beside its name, hit it.

No idea on how soon this will get pushed but if we push first, hard, fast, and wide, then perhaps we can prevent this from getting out of committee.

Hammer them on;
No due process
No redress process
Mistaken identities common
And anything and everything else you can come up with.

DO NOT FORGET TO MENTION, EVEN THE ACLU DOESN'T LIKE THESE BILLS!

 

[Mr H]

Response from Delegate Curt Anderson:



I guess Mike & Mike haven't put the touch on him yet.

I got the same response.

The Good Delegate really should try to keep up.

The Maryland firearms community is well aware of the pressure being brought to bear by Miller & Busch to rekindle these bills.

All we are asking is to oppose what is, on its face, a blatant emotional/political/convenience play to further the Curran agenda.

If the Delegate is truly unaware of this, then we have bigger issues.

 

[dblas]

And these Senators are supposed to be JUDICIARY experts? As in the LAW? As in the CONSTITUTION?

Have any of them even articulated a response to the Due Process concerns, or is it just a vague notion of "balance," or even worse, is it just "crickets"?

This flagrant disregard for American citizens' Due Process rights ought to be reason enough to remove from office anyone voting in favor of this bill. It conclusively establishes that their party politics, and desire for personal political power outweighs both the Due Process clause of the US Constitution and common sense. It flies in the face of ALL available evidence.

No, not really...You would think so, but committee assignments are based on who you know, not what you know.

 

[fightinbluhen51]

I receive many auto replies. I also got one that is lighting a fire under me, from Delegate Deborah Rey, below.

I sent an email to the ACLU and followed it up with phone call to bring it to their attention. They are only in the office Tues. and Thur. from 1-3pm.

I'm nervous.

http://www.aclu-md.org/contact_us

 

[EL1227]

Who doesn't think the Terror Watch List Bill passes now..

Democrat politicians nationwide ALWAYS cite the UK as having the most 'Common Sense Gun Safety Laws' ...

UK Shooting News
Every rifle club member in the UK is now on a database with terrorists

 

[Bikebreath]

Originally Posted by Bikebreath View Post
I receive many auto replies. I also got one that is lighting a fire under me, from Delegate Deborah Rey, below.
I sent an email to the ACLU and followed it up with phone call to bring it to their attention. They are only in the office Tues. and Thur. from 1-3pm.
I'm nervous.

http://www.aclu-md.org/contact_us

Yes, that's where I got the email from and learned they are only open Tues and Thru from 1-3

 

[mrgnstrn]

My version of the email:

Yesterday, the leadership of the General Assembly has stated that HB1000 and SB1040 must be passed, despite all of their problems. Clearly this move was a knee-jerk reaction in the wake of the Brussels bombings, one that would have not done anything to prevent those bombings should they have happened in Maryland.

These bills should be eliminated from the slate for their obvious flaws:
They offer NO Due Process protections guaranteed by the US Constitution.
They offer NO redress procedures for those incorrectly listed on the Terrorist Watch list.
They rely on a list that that is unavailable to State Police.
I vehemently oppose these unconstitutional restrictions on my rights guaranteed by the US Constitution; so do the citizens of Maryland.
In answer to these bills, it should be noted that the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) has offered testimony during the hearing opposing this bill.
Given the numerous reasons to drop these terrible bills from consideration, it is not clear why they should be forced to proceed at this time, if ever. I suspect that the motivation has little to do with actually providing for the safety of Maryland citizens (since the bills are basically impossible to enforce), and more to do with scoring empty political points by co-opting the tragedy in Brussels.
You all are better than this, so please act like it.
signed....-M

 

[Bikebreath]

I received a phone call from Suzanne White, assistant to Del. Carol Krimm, who wanted to know what is going on with all the emails and where is this coming from. I didn't give mdshooters away, but said an "online bulletin board". I told here for sure we all members of the NRA and MSI.

I had nice 9 minute conversation with Ms. White. She said the bills sounded like a good idea and I explained the problem with the secret No-Fly list and it's problem with Due Process. I added how the San Bernardino terrorists were not on the No-Fly list.

She things the bill will stay "drawed" and I told her I think the Speaker of the House might pull it out at the last minute to slap Hogan. She said she'd take what she learned back to Del. Krimm. I wonder.