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[alucard0822]

how so? I am not able to watch today, but it would seem that the ME report should be pretty "stand alone".

what inferences is the ME making that favor the prosecution?

Didn't do the autopsy or exam on Martin, didn't examine Z, a ME for an otherwise unrelated area but the State's attorney got her the job, she supposedly numerous complaints about her work. Basically going over every pic with an excuse, minor damage, not bruising his head is lumpy, not blood, probably birthmarks, and basically lying with a straight face

 

[vector03]

The Defense is doing a good job of pointing out this doctor can't say anything for sure. She can't say how many bruises he has, how many impacts it would take to generate the bruising.

He's basically done a good job of showing how little she CAN say for sure.

 

[jpo183]

She is also saying that there is "essentially" no real possible that he was hit mulitple times. The way she is conveying every answer is that nope it wasn't dangerous and he was not hit multiple times even though he "might have".

It is not a unbiased witness

 

[Vince55]

Like the OJ trial, I won't watch anymore of this crap either. Racist, bias, etc. etc.

 

[Twanger]

Love the "Challenge meeting" testimony by Serino!

After GZ gave his initial testimony to the police, they brought him back for a 'challenge meeting' to see if he was telling the truth. They made up a story and see how GZ reacts... so the cops bring GZ back in and tell him that "they have discovered video footage of the events of the evening."

So Serino testifies that GZ's response to this is "Thank God!"

Does that sound like the response of a depraved murderer desperately trying to hide the truth of what happened that night?

To me it sounds like GZ played it straight with the police the whole time, told the truth, and had nothing to hide.

 

[MikeTF]

Love the "Challenge meeting" testimony by Serino!

After GZ gave his initial testimony to the police, they brought him back for a 'challenge meeting' to see if he was telling the truth. They made up a story and see how GZ reacts... so the cops bring GZ back in and tell him that "they have discovered video footage of the events of the evening."

So Serino testifies that GZ's response to this is "Thank God!"

Does that sound like the response of a depraved murderer desperately trying to hide the truth of what happened that night?

To me it sounds like GZ played it straight with the police the whole time, told the truth, and had nothing to hide.

Not once has he been evasive or has he ever taken the fifth.

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[6 ft. Leprechaun]

Didn't do the autopsy or exam on Martin, didn't examine Z, a ME for an otherwise unrelated area but the State's attorney got her the job, she supposedly numerous complaints about her work. Basically going over every pic with an excuse, minor damage, not bruising his head is lumpy, not blood, probably birthmarks, and basically lying with a straight face

She is also saying that there is "essentially" no real possible that he was hit mulitple times. The way she is conveying every answer is that nope it wasn't dangerous and he was not hit multiple times even though he "might have".

It is not a unbiased witness

Are medical examiners real doctors? I mean do they take the hypcratic oath? Are they licensed and all that? If so, folks like this should have their license removed for crap like this.

 

[Bohlieve410]

I can't wait until this trial is over.

 

[paxfish]

It does seem odd that he had never heard of "Stand Your Ground." Heck, even we Marylanders know roughly what that Florida law means. And he's a CCW holder!

Even so, I'm not sure I understand the relevance other than the fact that he told Hannity differently. They aren't even using a SYG defense here.

 

[DC-W]

It does seem odd that he had never heard of "Stand Your Ground." Heck, even we Marylanders know roughly what that Florida law means. And he's a CCW holder!

Even so, I'm not sure I understand the relevance other than the fact that he told Hannity differently. They aren't even using a SYG defense here.

One way or another, they are trying to show that GZ thought he would have been cleared of wrongdoing if he were to confront and kill TM.

 

[smores]

Not once has he been evasive or has he ever taken the fifth.

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What if GZ HAD lawyered up and not said anything? Everything I've been told about ANY type of criminal investigation ANYONE might encounter suggests that this is what you should do. Can't be accused of changing your story or making false statements (even if unintended) if you zip your lips.

OTOH, it is remarkable that numerous witness statements and physical evidence match his story. It really should have been an open-and-shut case. But, we all know what is afoot. It is truly shameful what the State is doing..

I hope those of you who think the outcome has already been decided are wrong... but part of me is telling me not to hold my breath. Just heard ABC news on the radio saying Zimmerman was apparently not in mortal danger according to testimony today....



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[6 ft. Leprechaun]

I can't wait until this trial is over.

....and the riots begin?

 

[Kman]

Just heard ABC news on the radio saying Zimmerman was apparently not in mortal danger according to testimony today....

Nothing like Monday morning quarterbacks with an agenda. I guess anyone blessed with CCW needs to carry a doctor around to tell them when they reach that point just before the last breath of life when it's OK to defend yourself.

 

[6 ft. Leprechaun]

What if GZ HAD lawyered up and not said anything? Everything I've been told about ANY type of criminal investigation ANYONE might encounter suggests that this is what you should do. Can't be accused of changing your story or making false statements (even if unintended) if you zip your lips.

OTOH, it is remarkable that numerous witness statements and physical evidence match his story. It really should have been an open-and-shut case. But, we all know what is afoot. It is truly shameful what the State is doing..

I hope those of you who think the outcome has already been decided are wrong... but part of me is telling me not to hold my breath. Just heard ABC news on the radio saying Zimmerman was apparently not in mortal danger according to testimony today....



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That's the same meme that I'm seeing and hearing the rest of the media spin. "Zimmerman was in no real danger", "His injuries weren't that bad"....

 

[Bohlieve410]

....and the riots begin?

Nah..so the news can get back to it's originial intentions. Kim Kardashian baby pics and coked-out meltdowns by celebrity trust fund kids!

 

[airsporter]

It was my understanding from what I read that when Zimmerman initially called it in, the police told him to back off and only observe. It sounds to me like he tried to take matters into his own hands, THEN got attacked, and was forced to try to defend himself against a younger, stronger, faster person who was intent on beating the snot out of him.
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Call Takers/Dispatchers in that jurisdiction are not police officers. They are civilian employees. So, "the police" never told him anything (it's media misspeak). He was not told to "back off" (more media misspeak) - only that he didn't have to do that.

Why, as a neighborhood watch volunteer, would he not continue to follow and observe? This is a "Salem witch trial" for sure!

 

[Dal1as]

It was my understanding from what I read that when Zimmerman initially called it in, the police told him to back off and only observe. It sounds to me like he tried to take matters into his own hands, THEN got attacked, and was forced to try to defend himself against a younger, stronger, faster person who was intent on beating the snot out of him.
/QUOTE]

Call Takers/Dispatchers in that jurisdiction are not police officers. They are civilian employees. So, "the police" never told him anything (it's media misspeak). He was not told to "back off" (more media misspeak) - only that he didn't have to do that.

Why, as a neighborhood watch volunteer, would he not continue to follow and observe? This is a "Salem witch trial" for sure!

Not to mention when the dispatcher said "we don't need you to do that" you can clearly hear him stop, then continue the conversation on where he was going to meet the police.

 

[T-Man]

We all have the desire to try to figure out what happened and have an opinion -- that's fine and understandable regardless of where you come down.

The problem is the State has to prove through admissable evidence beyond reasonable doubt what happened. There appears to be little hope of that with contradictory testimony and lots of areas of no evidence one way or the other.

I have no idea what actually happened that evening, there are aspects that favor both sides, but the State's case seems really weak.

 

[BenL]

I can't wait until this trial is over.

It won't be for a while. Once he's found "not guilty" of Murder Two, the civil trial begins. Then after that, that POS eric holder gets to go after him for violating precious snowflake's civil rights. What's left of George Zimmerman's life is ruined.

No good deed goes unpunished. Lesson learned: if your community is going to shit, don't join or form a block watch to try to save your neighborhood. Just move and let the skid marks take over.

 

[randian]

It won't be for a while. Once he's found "not guilty" of Murder Two, the civil trial begins.

Not in Florida. You have civil immunity if your homicide is ruled (explicitly or by prosecutorial inaction) to be in lawful self-defense, or if you're acquitted at trial. That's why Crump needed a criminal trial, he'd have no civil case to pursue otherwise.