Western Maryland’ Secession Movement Growing

[Bohlieve410]

Western Maryland join WVA. Carrol And Fredneck can join PA. Eastern Shore can join DE or VA.

 

[Seagrave1963]

Western Maryland join WVA. Carrol And Fredneck can join PA. Eastern Shore can join DE or VA.

I'd rather the Eastern Shore stuck with Western Maryland - Heck, if the Congressional boundaries can be so whopper-jawed so can the "new" state!

 

[Mooseman]

If Western Maryland could not survive on it's own, I would be happy to become part of West Virginia or Pennsylvania.

 

[Lou45]

Western Maryland join WVA. Carrol And Fredneck can join PA. Eastern Shore can join DE or VA.

All of those "other" states you mention, with possible exception of WV, could fall into the same or similar "bowl of shit" that this state is in.

 

[w2kbr]

Don't know if anybody mentioned it or not...but...

For me, I'd rather see PGCnty and MOCO added to Wash. DC......wouldn't bother me at all....
and take their politicos with them.....

R

 

[Lou45]

Don't know if anybody mentioned it or not...but...

For me, I'd rather see PGCnty and MOCO added to Wash. DC......wouldn't bother me at all....
and take their politicos with them.....

R

It has been mentioned in other threads..... and this one too if I'm not mistaking.

 

[Threeband]

MOM: .....but we're one Maryland and we're stronger together".

Sounds like a fascist slogan: "One People, One State, One Leader."

How does disenfranchising me make me stronger?

The Western Maryland Initiative is still working on a name for its proposed state. So far, the choices include Liberty, Antietam and Augusta.

Western Maryland? West Maryland?

Potomac?

 

[Twanger]

Dividing Maryland?

It'll never, ever, happen.

And I hardly ever, say never, ever.

 

[Threeband]

The State Seal of Potomac could be a flying pig...

 

[fred333]

I agree that it's unlikely that Maryland (or any state) would [voluntarily] allow any portion of its real estate to secede from central planning. On the other hand, forced secession may be the logical conclusion to an armed insurrection resulting from significant additional infringements on Second Amendment rights following more mass shootings with "assault weapons" (or whatever firearm gets targeted by the media) or future padding of the Supreme Court by Obama/Clinton.

 

[TonyB.]

I think if they just turn DC, PG and MOCo into one state it would solve a lot of our problems. What's left of MD would be split close to 50/50 with the biggest detractor being HOCo.

 

[Lou45]

Sounds like a fascist slogan: "One People, One State, One Leader."

How does disenfranchising me make me stronger?





Western Maryland? West Maryland?

Potomac?

As it's always been known as, "Western Maryland".

I think if they just turn DC, PG and MOCo into one state it would solve a lot of our problems. What's left of MD would be split close to 50/50 with the biggest detractor being HOCo.

The libtard counties of Virginia should be included too.

I don't think HOCO is the biggest detractor but close. The biggest would be Bloodymore Shitty.

 

[Threeband]

As it's always been known as, "Western Maryland".


...

I figure "Western Virginia" became "West-by-God-Virginia."

How about "West-by-God Maryland"?


But yes, "Western Maryland" is well established. McDaniel College will have to change their name back. I hope they didn't throw out the old stationary.


Actually, I think Potomac makes the most sense.

It is vital that we settle this, because no doubt we'll be free by this time next week.

 

[Lou45]

I figure "Western Virginia" became "West-by-God-Virginia."

How about "West-by-God Maryland"?


But yes, "Western Maryland" is well established. McDaniel College will have to change their name back. I hope they didn't throw out the old stationary.


Actually, I think Potomac makes the most sense.

It is vital that we settle this, because no doubt we'll be free by this time next week.

OK governor, glad to see you're fast tracking this one.

 

[oupa]

Okay, I've read most of the posts but not all. There is a whole thread on this in the W.MD. forum... if you're interested. Just a few notes though to clear up some mis-information and wrong assumptions;

It must be understood that we have NO REPRESENTATION either in Annapolis or Washington. Sure that can be said by most on this site but all the legislators from W.MD. and the shore could vote together as a bloc and still be easily over-ridden by AA, PG, MoCo, & Balt. Jurisdictions that have nothing in common with (the majority of) us either geographically or philosophically. Our principals and goals differ yet we have no voice in attaining ours. Even our one representative in Congress was gerrymandered away.

The five counties pay approx. 11% of the total state taxes. This does not account for the considerable amount of fees, fines, ect. and I'm not sure if it covers "all taxes" or just income taxes.

W.MD has some tremendous transportation infrastructure that business slobbers over, until they learn of MD's anti-business atmosphere and simply locate in PA or WV. A more business friendly atmosphere (which our local governments would love to welcome) could bring a boom in private sector business and the associated taxes now going elsewhere.

MD's environmental protectionists have prevented any prospect our considerable Marceles (gas) Shale deposits can ever be touched. That could change, resulting in the tremendous revenues being seen elsewhere.

There are pluses and minuses as with any proposal. I wouldn't be so quick to say "never ever" though. A "poor state?" Probably, by current down-state Maryland standards but we are ALREADY a poor region! Poor, but surviving!!! Our counties are getting by just fine. Don't be so quick to assume we couldn't manage our own money better than having it handed back to us as Annapolis dictates.

Also, since this did emerge from the gun issues last session, the assumption by our detractors, as well (I admit) as many supporters, is that it is some conservative reaction to ultra-liberal Maryland and the result would be some equally conservative enclave.
That IS NOT the aim of the main players. No, what is sought is a FREE state, not one that fits easily into some left or right description. It is more of a libertarian objective if you insist on labels. We prefer no such labels though. What we seek is a constitutional state where the bill of rights would be the basis for all law. We seek to include everyone! We are not racists. We are not homophobes and I resent ANYONE portraying us as such!

It is certainly unlikely Annapolis will agree to letting us go. At least under current circumstances. Times do change however.

Feel free to discuss it but don't count us out.

 

[Gryphon]

Western MD receives more benefits than tax revenues. If Western MD did succeed it would be a very poor state

But rich in character, responsibility and integrity - all of which are missing from the metropolitan areas!

 

[Threeband]

OK governor, glad to see you're fast tracking this one.

Well, if I'm to be Governor, I figure Mopar can be a Senator. I'm sure SNI will refugee her way out here, so we can make her a Senator, too. She can whomp Babs' arse... I'll appoint Esquapellate for Attorney General. You can be Director of Civilian Marksmanship.

I assume the capital will be Hagerstown, as being most central.

I still think Potomac is the best name. I've got our State Song picked out:

All Quiet Along the Potomac Tonight



And of course, the State Seal will feature a flying pig...

 

[bhdpal]

I wonder how this “succession news of five Maryland Counties will affect MOM’s National image and his asinine political ambitions to be president?

MOM “Well I can't imagine Maryland without Western Maryland".

ME “Well I can imagine a Maryland without chancellor MOM & his socialist army of jackbooted thugs who pillage and rob lawful citizens of our rights and freedoms guaranteed by the US Constitution and tax the rain water off our roofs, England’s King George wasn’t this bad, and look what a few American Patriots did to his army.

Montgomery, Prince Georges, Howard Counties, and Baltimore City are the terminal cancer that is causing Maryland to die a slow and agonizing death and electing socialist "tax and spend" politicians . The five Western Maryland Counties that want to succeed know this, and have the balls to do something to escape the perils of this dreaded disease. Maybe there is a strong lesson to be learned here!

WHAT A NICE PLACE MARYLAND WOULD BE WITHOUT “MOM” AND HIS TYRANNICAL DICTATORSHIP, ONE PARTY SOCIALIST GOVERNMENT. TO BE ABLE TO LIVE WITHOUT FEAR OF CRIME, EXERCISING OUR RIGHT TO CONCEALED CARRY OF A HANDGUN FOR LEGAL PROTECTION OUTSIDE THE BOUNDRIES OF OUR HOME. AND NOT HAVE TO RETREAT IN THE FACE OF DANGER.

A MARYLAND WHERE THE RIGHT OF SELF DEFENSE IS RESPECTED AND UPHELD BY STATE ELECTED OFFICIALS AND NOT CRIMINALIZED.

A MARYLAND WHERE LAWFUL CITZENS CAN USE A FIREARM TO PROTECT THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES IN THEIR HOMES WITHOUT FEAR OF BECOMING THE TARGET OFTHE BLACK ROBED LIBERAL JURIST WHO INFEST MARYLAND’S INJUSTICE SYSTEM. AND A “FAIR TRIAL” IS ONLY AFFORDED TO VIOLENT CRIMINALS, DRUG DEALERS AND GANG MEMBERS. WHILE LAWFUL CITIZENS WHO ARE THE VICTIMS OF THESE CRIMES, RECEIVE NO JUSTICE IN MARYLANDS'S COURTS. AND FAMILY MEMBERS OFTEN GRIEVE THE LOSS OF A LOVED ONE TAKEN FROM THEM BY SOME STREET THUG'S WANTING MONEY OR "STREET CREDS," AS A BADASS.

 

[Alutacon]

Since DC wants to be a state, make the counties of Loundon, Fairfax, Arlington, Montgomery, Prince Georges, Howard, and the cities of DC and Baltimore into the 51st state. The rest of Maryland can stay as is.

did you hear what you said? since DC wants to be a state, take three VA jurisdictions and 4 MD jurisdictions, which are non-contiguous by the way, and make them a state. and leave the rest of Maryland as it is as though the jurisdictions you cited were all Maryland

sometimes, in our fervor to stand up for our rights we just sound like idiots.

 

[Alutacon]

I wonder how this “succession news of five Maryland Counties will affect MOM’s National image and his asinine political ambitions to be president?

MOM “Well I can't imagine Maryland without Western Maryland".

ME “Well I can imagine a Maryland without chancellor MOM & his socialist army of jackbooted thugs who pillage and rob lawful citizens of our rights and freedoms guaranteed by the US Constitution and tax the rain water off our roofs, England’s King George wasn’t this bad, and look what a few American Patriots did to his army.

Montgomery, Prince Georges, Howard Counties, and Baltimore City are the terminal cancer that is causing Maryland to die a slow and agonizing death and electing socialist "tax and spend" politicians . The five Western Maryland Counties that want to succeed know this, and have the balls to do something to escape the perils of this dreaded disease. Maybe there is a strong lesson to be learned here!

WHAT A NICE PLACE MARYLAND WOULD BE WITHOUT “MOM” AND HIS TYRANNICAL DICTATORSHIP, ONE PARTY SOCIALIST GOVERNMENT. TO BE ABLE TO LIVE WITHOUT FEAR OF CRIME, EXERCISING OUR RIGHT TO CONCEALED CARRY OF A HANDGUN FOR LEGAL PROTECTION OUTSIDE THE BOUNDRIES OF OUR HOME. AND NOT HAVE TO RETREAT IN THE FACE OF DANGER.

A MARYLAND WHERE THE RIGHT OF SELF DEFENSE IS RESPECTED AND UPHELD BY STATE ELECTED OFFICIALS AND NOT CRIMINALIZED.

A MARYLAND WHERE LAWFUL CITZENS CAN USE A FIREARM TO PROTECT THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES IN THEIR HOMES WITHOUT FEAR OF BECOMING THE TARGET OFTHE BLACK ROBED LIBERAL JURIST WHO INFEST MARYLAND’S INJUSTICE SYSTEM. AND A “FAIR TRIAL” IS ONLY AFFORDED TO VIOLENT CRIMINALS, DRUG DEALERS AND GANG MEMBERS. WHILE LAWFUL CITIZENS WHO ARE THE VICTIMS OF THESE CRIMES, RECEIVE NO JUSTICE IN MARYLANDS'S COURTS. AND FAMILY MEMBERS OFTEN GRIEVE THE LOSS OF A LOVED ONE TAKEN FROM THEM BY SOME STREET THUG'S WANTING MONEY OR "STREET CREDS," AS A BADASS.

I can answer that for you...it won't affect him at all. No one anywhere in this country gives a d?mm that a bunch of clowns in western Maryland are making noise about seceding from the State when there is zero chance they could do so. we are just making fools of ourselves and diminishing our cause with this type of bs.