vortex sparc VS primary arms micro

[redhawk_hj]

there are threads on both of these red dots but not one that compares the two... these are what I am deciding between. I know the micro dot is a lot cheaper but I have also heard nothing but amazing things about the sparc. I currently have a vortex scope and have been working with their customer service and it is crazy how good they treat their customers. with that said, I am leaning towards the sparc but if there is really no difference in quality...etc the micro may make more sense

 

[razorV23]

PA Micro was just on sale for 59.99, I ordered 2.
The Sparc is nice but I don't like how the controls stick out the side. Seem to block my FOV alittle.

ETA. Still on sale it appears

https://www.primaryarms.com/Special-Purchase-Microdot-with-Riser-MD-SP-p/md-sp.htm

 

[redhawk_hj]

yeah I saw that it is still on sale... I am going to try out my friends micro this weekend and make a decision. I just don't like buying "cheaper" things and having to deal with all the bs associated with it...

 

[mtlcafan79]

Primary Arms customer service is on the same level of Vortex in my experience. They will take care of you.

 

[bangbangbye]

love my micro on my ar pistol and just bought another for my 300blk pistol fro PA this weekend. Love my first one. have never seen the sparc.

 

[Flipz]

I have a Sparc and am decently happy with it. That said, I ordered 2 of the PA micros when I saw them on sale. They arrive tomorrow. One will be going on a 9mm upper and the other will go on a 22lr upper.

 

[LimaVictor]

Primary Arms customer service is good to go! I remember vids somewhere where they torture tested the micro. Dropped knocked them in the dirt type stuff. I run one on my rifle.

 

[ObsceneJesster]

I thought I saw someone post that the PA Red Dot on sale for $59.99 wasn't the same model as the one that is more popular.

 

[Boom Boom]

PA Micro was just on sale for 59.99, I ordered 2.
The Sparc is nice but I don't like how the controls stick out the side. Seem to block my FOV alittle.

ETA. Still on sale it appears

https://www.primaryarms.com/Special-Purchase-Microdot-with-Riser-MD-SP-p/md-sp.htm

That one is not a PA Micro. It's similar. The LED at 6 o'clock makes it unusable for lower 1/3rd co-witness. The real PA's are the ones for $79.99 and $89.99.

 

[OrbitalEllipses]

That one is not a PA Micro. It's similar. The LED at 6 o'clock makes it unusable for lower 1/3rd co-witness. The real PA's are the ones for $79.99 and $89.99.

• The front lens is coated and angled to prevent glare
• Micro Dot mounted at the factory on an AR height riser (included) allows for lower 1/3 cowitness on flat top AR-15/M-16.
• Ultra sharp 3 MOA dot
• 1,000+ hour battery life at medium setting.
• Uses 1 CR2032 battery (included).
• 11 brightness settings.
• Visible in bright sunlight.
• Waterproof (You can shoot in the rain. Don't go scuba diving with it).
• Bikini covers included.
• Only weighs 6.5 ounces w/ mount
• Optional kill flash available for separate purchase
• 1 year return warranty

 

[blksniper2000]

• The front lens is coated and angled to prevent glare
• Micro Dot mounted at the factory on an AR height riser (included) allows for lower 1/3 cowitness on flat top AR-15/M-16.
• Ultra sharp 3 MOA dot
• 1,000+ hour battery life at medium setting.
• Uses 1 CR2032 battery (included).
• 11 brightness settings.
• Visible in bright sunlight.
• Waterproof (You can shoot in the rain. Don't go scuba diving with it).
• Bikini covers included.
• Only weighs 6.5 ounces w/ mount
• Optional kill flash available for separate purchase
• 1 year return warranty

I just received two of them today, the led emitter covers the 6oclock position where the tip of your front site would be. 1/3 co-witness is pretty much out of the question.

 

[phx223]

I just received two of them today, the led emitter covers the 6oclock position where the tip of your front site would be. 1/3 co-witness is pretty much out of the question.

I'm having trouble understanding why.

Is it light bleed through that blocks the sight at the 6?

Or does the emitter itself physically block the sight.

If it's the latter then this sight is no bargain as you would have to get a new mount.

 

[OrbitalEllipses]

That's what I get..."too good to be true". Guess I'll have to see about a return of it doesn't 1/3rd cowitness well.

 

[Flipz]

Just got mine today. Indeed, the emitter is at the 6 o'clock position. But, you can still get a lower 1/3 cowitness, just barely. This was using Magpul MBUS sights. The front sight post can still be lined up in the middle of the rear aperture.

The funny thing that I don't think some realize is that the Sparc also has the emitter at the 6 o'clock position. Both give the same sight picture using lower 1/3 mounts. And yes, I also have a Sparc, so I'm speaking from experience.

I'll be keeping mine as long as they perform well. For $59 a piece, they're perfect for what I wanted them for.

 

[amoebicmagician]

The SPARC is amazing. It comes with a 2x magnifier that I pretty much keep on there all the time.

The thing sits on a rifle that I do not baby AT ALL. It has been dropped, smacked, exposed to cold and water, and works great, and zero has not shifted ONE BIT

Get the SPARC

 

[El_flasko]

I picked up a sparc when joebobs had them on sale last and I've been pleased with it. I'm generally a fan of vortex though

 

[Cranky]

Are these Chinese?

 

[dreadpirate]

The SPARC is amazing. It comes with a 2x magnifier that I pretty much keep on there all the time.

The thing sits on a rifle that I do not baby AT ALL. It has been dropped, smacked, exposed to cold and water, and works great, and zero has not shifted ONE BIT

Get the SPARC

I have been thinking about either a SPARC or a Lucid HD7 for a good value red dot as opposed to an AimPoint or EOTech solution.

 

[ma_deuce]

I got a Sparc from JoeBob's on sale, and have been generally very happy with it. I especially like the 2 MOA dot, and that it can be cranked up enough to be clearly visible even in bright light. The only problem was that it shot loose the first time after a couple hundred rounds, but a little blue Loctite fixed that.

 

[redhawk_hj]

thank you everyone for the input... my question is this (don't make fun) is 1/3 cowitness refer to using rear back up sight with the optic with the front sight? customer service is huge for me so if the cheaper micro is not a big deal... I may just get both. ask the gf for the sparc for Christmas