Steer Clear of Duffy's Gun Room

[Ahmiv]

About a year ago I purchased a 1950s Australian SLR built on a DSA lower receiver from Duffy's. It was priced at $3500, which was very steep even though they are hard to find in MD. I knew about the whole inch vs metric debacle with MD banning, and they informed me these were perfectly legal to own. I took a good portion of my collection there, expecting to walk out with the gun and maybe even some cash too. They completely shafted me on the guns giving me pennies on the dollar for them, but I settled and ended up paying $900 for the SLR. Lo and behold, I take the gun out multiple times and the rifle refuses to cycle and eject rounds upon firing, rendering it a straight pull rifle. I tried all the gas settings, cleaned it completely, and lubed it up. Next time still the same thing. I was planning on taking it to a gunsmith because my RSO mentioned it might be something with the gas rings on the bolt being worn out. The other day i decided i just wanted to get rid of it so I took it to Continental arms, and they wanted nothing to do with it. I then took it to Gunbunker south, and they seemed interested until they went onto the Maryland registry and found out that the rifle is illegal to own in MD due to parts being interchangeable with Belgian FALs. I then hurriedly took it to Pennsylvania to sell it off to get rid of it. Duffy's has done this before when they were selling CETME Ls a year or two ago. They will sell you grey area firearms that aren't specifically approved or banned on the MD registry. Now if you buy one of these and they end up illegal you are breaking the law. These guys are shafters and skirters of the law and only care about making a quick buck. STEER CLEAR OF THEM.

 

[SKIP]

About a year ago I purchased a 1950s Australian SLR built on a DSA lower receiver from Duffy's. It was priced at $3500, which was very steep even though they are hard to find in MD. I knew about the whole inch vs metric debacle with MD banning, and they informed me these were perfectly legal to own. I took a good portion of my collection there, expecting to walk out with the gun and maybe even some cash too. They completely shafted me on the guns giving me pennies on the dollar for them, but I settled and ended up paying $900 for the SLR. Lo and behold, I take the gun out multiple times and the rifle refuses to cycle and eject rounds upon firing, rendering it a straight pull rifle. I tried all the gas settings, cleaned it completely, and lubed it up. Next time still the same thing. I was planning on taking it to a gunsmith because my RSO mentioned it might be something with the gas rings on the bolt being worn out. The other day i decided i just wanted to get rid of it so I took it to Continental arms, and they wanted nothing to do with it. I then took it to Gunbunker south, and they seemed interested until they went onto the Maryland registry and found out that the rifle is illegal to own in MD due to parts being interchangeable with Belgian FALs. I then hurriedly took it to Pennsylvania to sell it off to get rid of it. Duffy's has done this before when they were selling CETME Ls a year or two ago. They will sell you grey area firearms that aren't specifically approved or banned on the MD registry. Now if you buy one of these and they end up illegal you are breaking the law. These guys are shafters and skirters of the law and only care about making a quick buck. STEER CLEAR OF THEM.

Did you check if the gas was cut off?
Not talking of gas settings.
There is an option to cut off the gas to launch rifle grenades or at the commanders discretion to conserve ammo.

 

[Bertfish]

The inch pattern rifles are legal to own. They are not a copy of an FAL as they do not have totally interchangeable parts.

Did you try talking to Duffys before you flamed them here? Accusing a shop of breaking the law is a hell of a lot more than a bad customer service experience

 

[Bertfish]

As you your complaint on what they paid you for your rifles 1) they have to make a profit and 2) you could've said no. So you'll get no sympathy on that count. You agreed to it.

 

[slsc98]

… giving me pennies on the dollar for them, …

^That^ re-percolated my memory of an old and dear Bullseye (err, Precision Pistol) shooting friend‘s Hammerli 203’s … when he passed untimely (putting it mildly) I purposely resisted the itch to reach out to his son about the incredible collection of custom-built and tuned 38Spl 1911’s, etc. that had suddenly been inherited …

“Surely,” I thought, “the adult lad has some idea of what he has inherited …”

Been two decades and I still wince and can hear the son over the phone, relaying how he had “traded that Curtis custom 38 wad 1911 this or Hammerli that” for things like NAA .500 caliber revolvers.

Hurt even more to soon learn those in turn were also sold for fractions of their worth because, “they hurt to shoot” and ammo was too hard-to-fInd …

Sigh …..

 

[Tomcat]

Did you try talking to Duffys before you flamed them here? Accusing a shop of breaking the law is a hell of a lot more than a bad customer service experience

They are an IP here so you shouldn’t be bitching unless you have talked to them. Haven’t heard much from them since all the Covid shit started though.

 

[SkiPatrolDude]

Duffy’s is an excellent shop with excellent folks working there.

You’re missing one piece to this whole equation…. Accountability.

 

[Alea Jacta Est]

THAT is how you make a major splash with your first post…

OTOH, there’s nowhere to go but down if you haven’t got your ducks in a row.

 

[traveller]

What did they say when you brought up both your issues with the gun and the question of legality ?

 

[welder516]

Let's look on the bright side, it is not the Gym Ratz thread

 

[Alea Jacta Est]

Let's look on the bright side, it is not the Gym Ratz thread

Always the optimist. Gotta love Welder.

 

[BFMIN]

Hoo Boy!
Where to start.

Did you check if the gas was cut off?
Not talking of gas settings.

The gas plug can be inserted in 2 positions, Gas ON, or Gas OFF. It is marked in various ways with different plugs but you can just pop the plug out & look at it for your variant.
Most common ways are "A" facing up, or the "V Notch facing UP.

my RSO mentioned it might be something with the gas rings on the bolt being worn out.

That would be amazing as there aren't any!

I don't know where you got the FAL is not legal, but the L1A1 s from but a 3 minute search on here got the correct answer multiple times. Essentially boiled down to

All FAL based rifles (with the possible exception of DSA) are licensed patterns of the FN-FAL, that includes REAL L1A1s, R1A1s, FALOs, etc. As such, they are, despite local nomenclature, FALs.

Did you ask on here or somewhere similar, about the gas?
Seriously, yes you overpaid.
Without knowing what our collection was & what condition it was in I can't speak to the trade in prices.

 

[Ammo Jon]

Accusing a shop of breaking the law is a hell of a lot more than a bad customer service experience

OP is opening himself up to legal issues if he’s incorrect. That’s a huge accusation.

 

[Ammo Jon]

About a year ago I purchased a 1950s Australian SLR built on a DSA lower receiver from Duffy's. It was priced at $3500, which was very steep even though they are hard to find in MD. I knew about the whole inch vs metric debacle with MD banning, and they informed me these were perfectly legal to own. I took a good portion of my collection there, expecting to walk out with the gun and maybe even some cash too. They completely shafted me on the guns giving me pennies on the dollar for them, but I settled and ended up paying $900 for the SLR. Lo and behold, I take the gun out multiple times and the rifle refuses to cycle and eject rounds upon firing, rendering it a straight pull rifle. I tried all the gas settings, cleaned it completely, and lubed it up. Next time still the same thing. I was planning on taking it to a gunsmith because my RSO mentioned it might be something with the gas rings on the bolt being worn out. The other day i decided i just wanted to get rid of it so I took it to Continental arms, and they wanted nothing to do with it. I then took it to Gunbunker south, and they seemed interested until they went onto the Maryland registry and found out that the rifle is illegal to own in MD due to parts being interchangeable with Belgian FALs. I then hurriedly took it to Pennsylvania to sell it off to get rid of it. Duffy's has done this before when they were selling CETME Ls a year or two ago. They will sell you grey area firearms that aren't specifically approved or banned on the MD registry. Now if you buy one of these and they end up illegal you are breaking the law. These guys are shafters and skirters of the law and only care about making a quick buck. STEER CLEAR OF THEM.

Saved for posterity.

 

[welder516]

OP is opening himself up to legal issues if he’s incorrect. That’s a huge accusation.

Jon, I was thinking the same thing, i know if someone slandered my company and lied i would want to proceed with a legal claim.


Legal disclaimer: i don't know these facts and who is right or wrong.

 

[clandestine]

IP Bashing. Yay!

 

[joppaj]

Ahmiv,

Hi, one of the moderators here. In your first post, you've accused an established business of selling you an illegal and/ or defective weapon. Now, provide proof.

 

[Bisleyfan44]

Ahmiv,

Hi, one of the moderators here. In your first post, you've accused an established business of selling you an illegal and/ or defective weapon. Now, provide proof.

I expect nothing but crickets, but let's see.

 

[-Z/28-]

I've never had a problem with Duffy's. Bought multiple guns from them over the years and used them for transfers too. They are one of the few shops that has been willing to fight for us and find things that are legal by the letter of the law. Their one of my preferred shops.

As for trade-in values, I've never heard any gun shop offer anywhere near retail values for something taken in trade. Best case you put something on consignment and the shop takes a 10-15% cut. For a trade you should expect 20-40% below retail depending on how desirable the item is for resale. Nobody is going to give you top dollar for something that may sit in their case for 6 months.

 

[Alea Jacta Est]

As he stood on the brink of the precipice and wondered just what was below——->


he had not one thought about how to hold his favorite shovel.



…man, that diggin sh1t is hard. Dirty too