Should have bought a better suppressor....

[rgramjet]

I recently went through the process and got the "cheap" YHM can in .30.

Put it on an AR22 to see how it would do with subsonic ammo. Its loud and I am disappointed.

I see that Silencershop shop has a 90 day satisfaction guarantee. They will give a credit for the amount paid except for the tax stamp.

After much research, I think the Silencerco Hybrid 46 or 46m would be a better fit for my needs. Or maybe a larger YHM. (I shot my friends YHM and it was very quiet, even with supersonic ammo).

That being said, am thinking about swapping cans. The tax stamp sting sucks but not as bad as putting up with something that doesn't work so well.

I'd like to get some real world suggestions on other versatile .45 cal suppressors that are in the same ballpark as the 46.

 

[Sundazes]

Not sure of your use cases, but the Hybrid is a solid choice. I use one in calibers up from 22 to 45-70, mainly 308. The hybrid has a miriad of mounts and ends caps. Very versatile. One piece of advice. If you get the Hybrid, make sure the proper mount or threaded end cap is with you before you leave. Also get one of those little oven it looking things from the Silencer shop. You will need it.
I don't and won't use to on 22lr. I have dedicated cans for that. If you plan on using it on 22 a lot, get a dedicated 22 can.

 

[John from MD]

I recently went through the process and got the "cheap" YHM can in .30.

Put it on an AR22 to see how it would do with subsonic ammo. Its loud and I am disappointed.

I see that Silencershop shop has a 90 day satisfaction guarantee. They will give a credit for the amount paid except for the tax stamp.

After much research, I think the Silencerco Hybrid 46 or 46m would be a better fit for my needs. Or maybe a larger YHM. (I shot my friends YHM and it was very quiet, even with supersonic ammo).

That being said, am thinking about swapping cans. The tax stamp sting sucks but not as bad as putting up with something that doesn't work so well.

I'd like to get some real world suggestions on other versatile .45 cal suppressors that are in the same ballpark as the 46.

How is it when you shoot .30 cal ammo?

 

[smdub]

IMO, For 22LR (AR22) you really should get a dedicated LR can. A 45+ cal can on 22LR is never going to be quiet.

 

[Bountied]

The problem with cans that are over bore is that it allows gasses to escape around the bullet as it is passing through. A .30 cal can with .22 ammo will do this. The fact that you say it is loud with .22 subs and my Spectre II is 1/3 the volume and quieter than a mouse fart tells me this is the issue. I wouldn't shoot .22s through a .30 cal can as it will get dirty fast and be a pain to clean. Get a designated .22 can and a .30 multi cal for .308/.226.

 

[AssMan]

I don't think any big bore can is going to work well with .22LR.

 

[outrider58]

Which can did you buy, exactly?

I would recommend only put .22lr through cans made for .22lr.

ETA: I run a couple 5.56 guns through my YHM .30 cal can. Very quiet, considering they are all shooting supers.

 

[slsc98]

Just a suggestion: change title thread to “should have bought a DIFFERENT suppressor”

 

[rgramjet]

Which can did you buy, exactly?

I would recommend only put .22lr through cans made for .22lr.

ETA: I run a couple 5.56 guns through my YHM .30 cal can. Very quiet, considering they are all shooting supers.

Its the YHM Resonator K.

Ive only put a few rounds thru it. Will try with the 300blk.

 

[rgramjet]

Just a suggestion: change title thread to “should have bought a DIFFERENT suppressor”

I am a fan of YHM. I just bought the "base" model. Love the attachment system. Whats the quietest .30 can YHM makes?

 

[outrider58]

Its the YHM Resonator K.

Ive only put a few rounds thru it. Will try with the 300blk.

Yeah, it doesn't get great reviews. I'm not sure why people are putting out short cans, especially in large caliber.

 

[Alutacon]

Not sure of your use cases, but the Hybrid is a solid choice. I use one in calibers up from 22 to 45-70, mainly 308. The hybrid has a miriad of mounts and ends caps. Very versatile. One piece of advice. If you get the Hybrid, make sure the proper mount or threaded end cap is with you before you leave. Also get one of those little oven it looking things from the Silencer shop. You will need it.
I don't and won't use to on 22lr. I have dedicated cans for that. If you plan on using it on 22 a lot, get a dedicated 22 can.

I think he probably doesn't want to use it on a .22 at all.

 

[alucard0822]

I recently went through the process and got the "cheap" YHM can in .30.

Put it on an AR22 to see how it would do with subsonic ammo. Its loud and I am disappointed.

I see that Silencershop shop has a 90 day satisfaction guarantee. They will give a credit for the amount paid except for the tax stamp.

After much research, I think the Silencerco Hybrid 46 or 46m would be a better fit for my needs. Or maybe a larger YHM. (I shot my friends YHM and it was very quiet, even with supersonic ammo).

That being said, am thinking about swapping cans. The tax stamp sting sucks but not as bad as putting up with something that doesn't work so well.

I'd like to get some real world suggestions on other versatile .45 cal suppressors that are in the same ballpark as the 46.

Suppressor design is fairly advanced, and tuned for different volumes, pressures, and velocities of gas. Rifle cal cans like YHM's Resonator series have tough baffles with a large volume, and baffle designs and spacing to initiate cross jetting, where the stream of gas circulates in the can to hit the gas stream and increase sound mitigaton. Problem is, with something that has completely different attributes, like 22 subs, they just don't don't have enough gas to work as designed, and can be quite loud through a can that was designed without regard to that application. SO 308, 300BO, even 5.56, it will work as designed, but rimfire is a completely different animal that needs much closer baffle spacing and far more aggressive cross jetting ports, and can be a LOT smaller and lighter being it will only experience a fraction of the pressure and heat.

Assuming it's a Resonator, that is a great can with good performance within 22-30 cal rifle calibers. If you want to suppress a rimfire as well, get a 2nd rimfire can. Even those that claim they can do both usually suck at one or the other.


eta seen it is a Res k. They excel as a can for supersonic semi-autos, AR15/AR10 especially. Not much length added, so a compact firearm stays compact, it is effective on those calibers, and the shorter stack has less backpresure, so better performance at the ear than a "quieter" and more restrictive can. Typically as the can suppresses the muzzle blast more, it increases backpressure, and port pop, requiring gas tuning and heavier buffers to avoid blowing clouds of gas in your face or overgassing enough to cause function issues. Good for defensive use on 300BO subs, but won't be as quiet as a full sized can, and a rifle tuned for it, and about the worst thing to use for rimfire being the gas jet will fly right out of the bore without really getting redirected by the baffles as much as even the most basic rimfire cans.

 

[rgramjet]

Suppressor design is fairly advanced, and tuned for different volumes, pressures, and velocities of gas. Rifle cal cans like YHM's Resonator series have tough baffles with a large volume, and baffle designs and spacing to initiate cross jetting, where the stream of gas circulates in the can to hit the gas stream and increase sound mitigaton. Problem is, with something that has completely different attributes, like 22 subs, they just don't don't have enough gas to work as designed, and can be quite loud through a can that was designed without regard to that application. SO 308, 300BO, even 5.56, it will work as designed, but rimfire is a completely different animal that needs much closer baffle spacing and far more aggressive cross jetting ports, and can be a LOT smaller and lighter being it will only experience a fraction of the pressure and heat.

Assuming it's a Resonator, that is a great can with good performance within 22-30 cal rifle calibers. If you want to suppress a rimfire as well, get a 2nd rimfire can. Even those that claim they can do both usually suck at one or the other.

I am a suppressor newbie. Was thinking if it was that loud on a .22 it must be really loud on the 300. Even so, the reviews I read (after the fact) said its not hearing safe. Darn impulse purchases!

Going to speak with Silencer Shop and see my options.

The interchangeable end cap system is making the Hybrid 46 or 46m my lead contender.

 

[Bountied]

I am a suppressor newbie. Was thinking if it was that loud on a .22 it must be really loud on the 300. Even so, the reviews I read (after the fact) said its not hearing safe. Darn impulse purchases!

Going to speak with Silencer Shop and see my options.

The interchangeable end cap system is making the Hybrid 46 or 46m my lead contender.

If it were me I'd just keep it and not have to spend the extra $200 for another can. You can use it for something.

 

[alucard0822]

I am a suppressor newbie. Was thinking if it was that loud on a .22 it must be really loud on the 300. Even so, the reviews I read (after the fact) said its not hearing safe. Darn impulse purchases!

Going to speak with Silencer Shop and see my options.

The interchangeable end cap system is making the Hybrid 46 or 46m my lead contender.

End caps can help, but you have to consider the can, and what you want to use it on. 45cal cans tend to be huge and have mediocre performance on smaller calibers like 5.56 being the gas stream doesn't get stripped as efficiently in the baffles, and basically hits a wall at the end cap. Fun fact, most all suppressor companies and people reviewing them don't really test them scientifically, and usually print BS numbers.
Fun fact, even a can that has sub 140db tested numbers at the muzzle with supersonic rifle calibers like 308 are probably over that at the ear due to port pop. A K can like that usually is better at the ear, worse at the muzzle, part of the reason it's ideal for ARs in the way we tend to use them. Their numbers state 137db at the ear, 144 at the muzzle, BS numbers but kinda sorta comparable, the full size Res R2 states 135db at the muzzle, but nothing at the ear, good for a bolt action, but likely louder at the ear than the K on a gas-op semi auto, unless the gas is tuned just right.

Point being you didn't buy a "bad" can, you bought one that is ideal for a certain application, being semi-auto rifles. Not sure if that application is what you can use or not. It is definitely not designed for rimfire, and not a good way to determine it's performance.

IMO for most that ask me "what is the best first suppressor?" I will tell them depends on what you want to suppress. Personally, I LOVE my SiCo 36M and Rugged Oculus, they will suppress most things well, and both are modular for K configuration, which is very useful for me. For those with a lot of ARs, a 30cal K can like you have is probably the most useful on all of them, with a full size really only being better for 300BO subs or bolt actions. In any case, I ALWAYS recommend a dedicated 22 can, being it is the only caliber that ends up being actually quiet instead of rifle cans that are only capable of reducing "ear splitting" muzzle blast to somewhere between "loud" and "painfully loud."

 

[Lafayette]

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[Trekker]

I am eagerly awaiting Ruger's planned production of model 1894SBL's in 38/357, and plan to get a suppressor for it.
(https://www.marlinfirearms.com/s/leverAction-SBLSeries/)

Would a hybrid 46 work well enough for this caliber, or is there another suppressor that matches better?

 

[alucard0822]

I am eagerly awaiting Ruger's planned production of model 1894SBL's in 38/357, and plan to get a suppressor for it.
(https://www.marlinfirearms.com/s/leverAction-SBLSeries/)

Would a hybrid 46 work well enough for this caliber, or is there another suppressor that matches better?

I have demo-ed the original 46, and newer 36m and 46m, ended up buying the 36M as it was better in every way, unless you absolutely had to have 45cal capability. Depending on what you are doing with it, and what else you may want to put t on, the Omega 9K and Spectre are awesome, but pistol cans, only about 4.5" and light (the Spectre is stupid light < 4oz) and really really good performance for their size, should be excellent on a 357 or 9mm long gun. A lever gun with subsonic 38s and a can can be near 22 levels of quiet, even with a smaller can.

the Omega 36m is 5"/10oz in K config, 6.75" / 12.5oz in fullsize, and uses the better Charlie mount/cap system, really more a Saker series than Omega. their test numbers, although BS are somewhat comparable
5.56 NATO: 130.6 dB, 300 BLK: 124.1 dB, 308 WIN: 136.9 dB
300 WM: 139.5 dB, 338 LM: 141.4 dB, 9MM: 123.3 dB

The 46M is 5.75" / 12.5oz K config, 7.75" / 15oz in full size, and charlie mounts/caps, it's numbers per SiCO:
5.56 NATO: 128.9dB, 300 BLK: 130.1 dB, 308 WIN: 134 dB
300 WM: 137.2 dB, 338 LM: 140.1 dB, 9MM: 130.1 dB, IMO at the ear the 36M was the same or better in 5.56 and 308win despite the numbers stating the opposite, more than likely these numbers use the included 9mm cap for all on the 36M and both the 30 and 45 end caps on the 46M. Use a 22 cap on the 36M, and it improves 5.56 to be FAR better than it was on the 46M, even with a 22 end cap. in 9mm and 300BO subs the 36M was quite noticeably better.

The Hybrid 46 is kinda outdated, but inexpensive, bravo mounts/caps, not modular length
7.61" and 14oz, numbers are:
5.56 NATO: 130.4 dB, 300 BLK: 123.7 dB, 308 WIN: 136.4 dB
300 WM: 142.1 dB, 338 LM: 146.5 dB, 9MM: 125.7 dB
45 ACP: 130.8 dB, 458 SOCOM: 138.3 dB, 45-70 GOV: 140.6 dB\
basically fitting between the 36M and 46M's numbers, which is kinda expected with slightly more internal volume than the 46M, but the same 46cal baffles

 

[Alea Jacta Est]

Just a suggestion: change title thread to “should have bought a DIFFERENT suppressor”

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