Truthlesshero81
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- Sep 30, 2011
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So I'll be in the market for a concealed carry piece soon, any thoughts on the (supposedly) fixed and improved R51? I also have been looking at the various Glocks but they lack that sex appeal lol
Remington R51? Fixed or still junk?
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alucard0822
For great Justice
Still junk, I would never trust one till they had a few years worth of reliable service with an agency, or I had put a few thousand trouble free rounds through one. If a GLOCk fits you, then hard to get a better carry gun. If you want something prettier then HK or Sig have plenty of excellent choices amongst others
They're trying...
For what it's worth, I spoke to new Remington CEO Jim "Marco" Marcotuli over dinner a few weeks ago and asked him about the R51. He said his engineers and testers are still working with it making sure it doesn't face the same QC problems the original run did. ROC actually said the R51 would be re-introduced at NRA Show 2015 -- and we all know that didn't happen. I followed up with him and asked, how can it be worth it for you to invest so much time, effort and money into a carry pistol that will have such a potentially limited market? And straight up he said "it's about our reputation." That might not be enough to restore trust, but it's a pretty honest answer in my book.
For what it's worth, I spoke to new Remington CEO Jim "Marco" Marcotuli over dinner a few weeks ago and asked him about the R51. He said his engineers and testers are still working with it making sure it doesn't face the same QC problems the original run did. ROC actually said the R51 would be re-introduced at NRA Show 2015 -- and we all know that didn't happen. I followed up with him and asked, how can it be worth it for you to invest so much time, effort and money into a carry pistol that will have such a potentially limited market? And straight up he said "it's about our reputation." That might not be enough to restore trust, but it's a pretty honest answer in my book.
A guy named Jim who works for Remington just called me and said they will not return my R 51 to the state of Maryland but they would be happy to refund my money if I can produce a receipt. this after 2 years of waiting. This guy says their legal department says don't ship any guns to DC or Maryland.
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With MD's screwy laws, it's easier for Remington to give you your money back. Not a bad thing. Take your money, run, and get a pistol that actually works.
StantonCree
Watch your beer
- Jan 23, 2011
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I hope you have a receipt
smokey
2A TEACHER
- Jan 31, 2008
- 31,591
Would you rather have a fire extinguisher that's sexy, or one that works?
vetogunban
Active Member
Now a days you can find a fire extinguisher that is both.
jimbobborg
Oddball caliber fan
Sexy? Reliable? How about a CZ-82?
StantonCree
Watch your beer
- Jan 23, 2011
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moojersey
Sic Semper Tyrannis
Makes no sense lol. Who the hell keeps receipts
You sent them the gun for goodness sakes.
Mike OTDP
Ultimate Member
- Feb 12, 2008
- 3,324
This could get interesting. I doubt that anyone has receipts 2 years old. If you have the serial number, it would make a really interesting lawsuit.
Why in the world would they not ship your pistol back?! You purchased it legally in this state right? Its yours. Now I know big R is a $hit company.
Remington destroyed the original R51's people sent back. Not repairable. Since MD gun laws are a cluster eff, Remington is opting to give him a full refund instead of the redesigned replacement.
Remington should be a lot clearer on that. " we build a junk pile and are gonna make a completely new version. But, it will still be call the R51. We could offer that to you, but we'll just make you jump threw some hoops instead." MD guns laws are f.ed. they should have to deal with that not their customers. In that Marylanders got their crappy gun on the roster not them. Heck its not that hard even, slow but not hard.
