pistol legal question....

[mrbule]

ok.. I would have put this in the mine is bigger thread..
but this is more of a legal question...
The 1911 has a 16 inch barrel.. and i got a conversion kit..
so now it looks like this..

now..
My understanding is since it has a 16 inch barrel, and with the ATF change last year, That I can trow a stock and a foregrip on that and not have any problems?
then take it off and have a pistol again?

And let me clarify I would NEVER put the stock or anything on without the 16 inch barrel because I would NEVER stupidly SBR the thing. I do NOT want to mess around with going to jail...

Am I missing anything here or am I ok to put the stuff on it?

thanks for any info in advance...

 

[teratos]

Can't wait to hear what the Gurus have to say. I'm stumped.

 

[coynedogg]

'A firearm, as defined by 26 U.S.C. 5845(a)(3) and (a)(4), is not made when a pistol is attached to a part or parts designed to convert the pistol into a rifle with a barrel or barrels of 16 inches or more in length, and the parts are later unassembled in a configuration not regulated under the NFA (e.g., as a pistol). A firearm, as defined by 26 U.S.C. 5845(a)(4), is made when a handgun or other weapon with an overall length of less than 26 inches, or a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length, is assembled or produced from a weapon originally assembled or produced only as a rifle.'

http://www.atf.gov/regulations-rulings/rulings/atf-rulings/atf-ruling-2011-4.pdf

 

[mrbule]

So in english I think that means I'm good to go?

 

[coynedogg]

I don't like to give legal advice as I am not an lawyer. As long as your overall length is ok, the barrel length is ok, I think you'll be fine.

They do have a ruling on the proximity of parts that could create an SBR as well (ex. having a 5" 1911 barrel in the gun cabinet with the rest of your parts). You should consult the MSP / ATF to make sure.

 

[Speaker2Wolves]

'A firearm, as defined by 26 U.S.C. 5845(a)(3) and (a)(4), is not made when a pistol is attached to a part or parts designed to convert the pistol into a rifle with a barrel or barrels of 16 inches or more in length, and the parts are later unassembled in a configuration not regulated under the NFA (e.g., as a pistol). A firearm, as defined by 26 U.S.C. 5845(a)(4), is made when a handgun or other weapon with an overall length of less than 26 inches, or a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length, is assembled or produced from a weapon originally assembled or produced only as a rifle.'

http://www.atf.gov/regulations-rulings/rulings/atf-rulings/atf-ruling-2011-4.pdf

What this means is you don't have to get a tax stamp for your (shudder) 1911 "rifle" when you break it back down to a 1911 pistol, i.e., taking the 16" barrel off does not convert your pistol to a SBR.

I think. Consult a lawyer for real advice.

 

[MDMOUNTAINEER]

Real quick, before we get anymore into the conversion stuff. Is that really a completely jeweled 1911?


Anyway, I don't have any advice for the OP.

 

[mrbule]

Oh yeah. It's a jeweled 1911.

And after reading the site you posted it sounds like I'm ok. Legally.
And the fact that the long barrel in it means to take it out I have to completely disassemble the conversion. (take out the screws and take it in half) I would assume that with having multiple 1911's and having a use for any barrels that I'm clear as far as the law.

Thanks for the link.
And being that as the law is written I should be good. I guess I'll just hope for the best knowing I'm not planning anything illegal.