Perry Hall H.S Student Editorial

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  • ezracer

    Certified Gun Nut
    Jul 27, 2012
    4,962
    Behind enemy lines...
    This past weekend, a Perry Hall High School student wrote an editorial piece
    in the Sunpaper ( Balto. edition of the Chicago Tribune ) in which she called for more gun laws/control.

    The problem is NOT GUNS!! Here's the problem in my opinion. This country is headed down the road of Socialism. When I say down, I mean down the toilet.
    We have become a very violent society/culture. We have violent movies, TV shows, and video games. We have declining moral values. We have broken families, and declining religious values.

    The problem is NOT GUNS. We need to restore our values as family members and as a country.:patriot:
     

    Jstevens56

    Ultimate Member
    Feb 9, 2012
    1,295
    Somewhere in Merryland
    This past weekend, a Perry Hall High School student wrote an editorial piece
    in the Sunpaper ( Balto. edition of the Chicago Tribune ) in which she called for more gun laws/control.

    The problem is NOT GUNS!! Here's the problem in my opinion. This country is headed down the road of Socialism. When I say down, I mean down the toilet.
    We have become a very violent society/culture. We have violent movies, TV shows, and video games. We have declining moral values. We have broken families, and declining religious values.

    The problem is NOT GUNS. We need to restore our values as family members and as a country.:patriot:

    :thumbsup:

    I agree. It starts at the core and frankly the core is really falling apart.
     

    jrumann59

    DILLIGAF
    MDS Supporter
    Feb 17, 2011
    14,024
    This past weekend, a Perry Hall High School student wrote an editorial piece
    in the Sunpaper ( Balto. edition of the Chicago Tribune ) in which she called for more gun laws/control.

    The problem is NOT GUNS!! Here's the problem in my opinion. This country is headed down the road of Socialism. When I say down, I mean down the toilet.
    We have become a very violent society/culture. We have violent movies, TV shows, and video games. We have declining moral values. We have broken families, and declining religious values.

    The problem is NOT GUNS. We need to restore our values as family members and as a country.:patriot:

    I mean blaming movies and video games is akin to blaming a gun for violence. I was born in the late 70's so I lived through the 80's and 90's BS about violence on TV, movies, Video games, blah blah blah. Its parenting. following your logic I should in jail and on death row. TV has become more immoral but again parenting, a TV is not a parent. I grew up in a broken home I had 2 step dads by the time I graduated HS. I personally feel public schools today are helping cultivate more sociopaths then anything, because their is no repurcussions for bad behavior.
     

    highwayheat

    highwayheat
    Jun 13, 2012
    588
    Ceciltucky
    The problem is NOT GUNS. We need to restore our values as family members and as a country.:patriot:

    I agree. My wife and I spend as much time as we can with our two kids. We even have Dad and the kids day, Mom and the kids day, or a one on one day with one of the kids. You can tell by how they act that they really enjoying the bonding time. My oldest loves to play war video games in the little amount of time he is given. He certainly knows that just because you are shooting and blowing stuff up in a game doesn't mean its alright in real life. He is extremely mature and knows the right and wrong way of handling a firearm. Also, like any kid in the world he has had disagreements with some friends. However, he tries to handle it diplomatically without the use of violence. Overall the family structure is something that needs to be strengthened once again. On another note if parents do go their seperate ways in marriage then they need to act like mature adults and not put the children in the mix. All to often children become the real victims of a divorce and the parents are just too ignorant to realize it.
     

    Nobody

    Ultimate Member
    Jan 15, 2009
    2,881
    I would ask the writer of the op/ed piece "What law that you can think of would have prevented this?" This is my new question to anyone proposing more laws. I have yet to have anyone answer it with a viable answer..

    NOBODY
     

    DoubleTap007

    Active Member
    Mar 18, 2011
    913
    BelAir, MD
    I would ask the writer of the op/ed piece "What law that you can think of would have prevented this?" This is my new question to anyone proposing more laws. I have yet to have anyone answer it with a viable answer..

    NOBODY

    Excellent question. What people need to think about when they talk about no more guns, they should realize we are a country that needs to protect themselves from outside enemies. What I am saying here is, lets pretend for a second, that guns do not exist in America.

    Now, lets figure out how we are going to go to war with other countries. Does anyone really think that you can pull a person off the street who has never seen a gun in their life, and provide them basic army training, and they will be as good as solidier that we have in the real world ?

    The terrorists and enemies in other countries have been practicing with firearms since they are old enough to pick up a rifle. There are armys where they have kids fighthing in the wars.

    What needs to happen, is we need to make examples out of people who committ crimes. I would go back to capital punishment, hang a few people, let the public see it, let kids see the repercussion for actions.
     

    lx1x

    Peanut Gallery
    Apr 19, 2009
    26,992
    Maryland
    I mean blaming movies and video games is akin to blaming a gun for violence. I was born in the late 70's so I lived through the 80's and 90's BS about violence on TV, movies, Video games, blah blah blah. Its parenting. following your logic I should in jail and on death row. TV has become more immoral but again parenting, a TV is not a parent. I grew up in a broken home I had 2 step dads by the time I graduated HS. I personally feel public schools today are helping cultivate more sociopaths then anything, because their is no repurcussions for bad behavior.

    ???

    Public schools are not baby sitting service. There are some repurcussions but doesnt mean the teachers go home with the bad students. Its really up to the parents. imo.
     

    squirrels

    Who cooks for you?
    Jan 25, 2008
    4,021
    This past weekend, a Perry Hall High School student wrote an editorial piece
    in the Sunpaper ( Balto. edition of the Chicago Tribune ) in which she called for more gun laws/control.

    The problem is NOT GUNS!! Here's the problem in my opinion. This country is headed down the road of Socialism. When I say down, I mean down the toilet.
    We have become a very violent society/culture. We have violent movies, TV shows, and video games. We have declining moral values. We have broken families, and declining religious values.

    The problem is NOT GUNS. We need to restore our values as family members and as a country.:patriot:

    The socialist approach is what kids are taught in public schools.

    Parents are too distracted, between trying to make ends meet and being distracted by all the modern BS ("social media", entertainment, etc, etc) to raise their kids. They dump it all off on the schools, sending them kids who have no good sense of right/wrong or respect for their fellow students, and hoping that "education" will enlighten them on the ways of the world.

    Unfortunately, public schools are indoctrination centers more than education centers. They don't really teach kids to "think", they just teach them what the school administration believes are the "right answers" to questions.

    Maryland, having a decidedly liberal bias, takes the approach, "If a kid shoots up a school, the solution is to ban guns". If this happened in a HS in Texas, the kids would be writing different editorials entirely. (of course, this wouldn't happen in Texas because the offending child would've gotten dropped quickly!!)

    Maryland is also a center for the "revolving door" justice system and the "victim mentality", where the criminals are never blamed for their crimes. It's always someone ELSE'S fault, and the criminals are victims of a failure by society at-large.

    Let's face it...in a society with this mentality, the only way to even ATTEMPT to control violence is to take people's civil rights away. They want to cry that the shooter was a "victim of bullying", so he can't be held responsible for his attempt to MURDER other students. If he can't control himself, if the criminals in MD can't help themselves, then they CAN'T be trusted with "rights".

    That's what they want...to dumb you down to the point where you can accomplish your mindless menial tasks and pay your tax-dollars, but you can't think for yourself or take responsibility for yourself. Then they can excuse any "infringement" they want by saying, "well, nothing you do is your fault or within your control, therefore we can't take you at your word or example that you're 'law-abiding', and we can't hold you responsible if you mis-use your rights, therefore we won't allow you them to begin with".

    You're just a number, a statistic on a spreadsheet. Thinking for yourself is dangerous. Acting on your own is even more dangerous. It's another variable that they have to account for when making policy. So the best solution is to just eliminate personal choice/personal responsibility to control as many variables as possible.

    We're headed for a tough time right now. People have lost faith...in God, in their fellow human beings, in everything. They've been taught by society that they are powerless. They've been told to trust in the Government, rather than "cling to guns and religion"...in other words, sit back and let someone else try to make your life better, instead of relying on your own divine and sovereign empowerment. They've been told, "you didn't build that"...so even if a person does accomplish something, they feel like it was "dumb luck" or that "someone else made it happen".

    The thing is, this Government they've been told to trust is letting them down at pretty much every turn. It manages to supply just enough to sustain them, but not enough to satisfy them. They ask, and the government promises, and then as politicians win elections, the people who they promised these things to get lost in the shuffle. There are just "so many" asking "so much" that politicians seem to forget what they've promised. Like their constituents, the politicians are powerless, putting not only their own needs but the needs of their constituents into the hands of a "system" that just doesn't care.

    When these "shooters" decide to mow down a movie theater or a high school, they choose their targets indiscriminately. Other people are just "sheep" to be slaughtered. They don't stop to consider that maybe that person sitting in the theater might be just like them, suffering through the same sense of disempowerment and despair...to the shooter, he's just a "sheep", another piece of the system that has promised him happiness and failed him, almost deliberately.

    These aren't acts of resistance against government...if they were, political figures would be targets. These are attacks against SOCIETY at large.

    The bullied kid? There's no "Mr. Miyagi" to teach him to fight back. Instead, he's taught that "fighting back" is wrong, that he should go to the principal. The principal, overwhelmed, metes out justice on a "zero-tolerance" policy and suspends both assailant and victim for "fighting", or gives the bullies a slap on the wrist and sends them to "counseling", because it isn't their fault.

    The bullies...they don't care. They're animals...raised by parents who didnt' give a sh*t, who threw them into a school system that didn't give a sh*t.

    I was bullied in middle and high school. I'll tell you exactly what happens when a bullied kid goes to the principal. The "bullies" get into trouble and they might get suspended and sent to "counseling". They play along like they're "sorry", but when they get together AFTER school, they cuss about the little twerp who "squealed" and how they're going to avenge themselves. THey wait for the bullied kid to leave school one day, then ride up on bicycles and jump his ass, knock him to the ground, and kick his head in.

    Not ONCE does any teacher, parent, fellow student, guidance counselor, principal, etc consider EMPOWERING this bullied kid to deal with these bullies. Any remedial action is aimed not at helping the bullied kids, but at keeping the school "machine" running smoothly. Eventually any kid is going to "snap" and reach for the only thing that will get his cries for help heard...which in this case, was a shotgun.

    And now the system thinks the solution to the problem is to take THAT away from him too.

    Now obviously I'm not saying that kids should be reaching for guns to solve problems, but I can see why they do. It's because society has taken away any and every other means that these children have of empowering themselves to conquer these situations, just to make life easier on the "system" at large. In their developing state of mind, they feel that the system has betrayed them at every turn, that it doesn't understand the situation and is acting not to fix the problem, but to make it go away.

    Had I not been brought up better by my own parents, with a strong moral compass and at least a modicum of personal responsibility and respect for other people on this earth, I and millions of others could easily have reached for a similar solution. In a society where learned helplessness and lack of personal responsibility are the norm, expect to see a LOT more of these random violent outbursts as people vent their emotions in indiscriminate ways.

    And expect to see the government try to fix things not by addressing the problems, but by disempowering the people.
     

    booker

    Active Member
    Apr 5, 2008
    776
    Baltimore
    It's not the young writer's or the libs or the school system's fault, blame the computer she used the write the article.

    Front sight focus, hold breath, smooth press to the rear. That's all the gun control I need.
     

    Threeband

    The M1 Does My Talking
    Dec 30, 2006
    25,443
    Carroll County
    The Soviet Union used to register typewriters.

    It was a crime to posses an unregistered typewriter.

    Perhaps all computers should be registered and have a unique identifying signature, like a "fingerprint".

    Then we can round up all these extremists who keep criticizing our glorious leaders.
     

    jrumann59

    DILLIGAF
    MDS Supporter
    Feb 17, 2011
    14,024
    ???

    Public schools are not baby sitting service. There are some repurcussions but doesnt mean the teachers go home with the bad students. Its really up to the parents. imo.

    I agree but for most kids this is the one place that they spend most of their time awake. Besides parents schools influence kids the most. I agree parents are responsible but schools influence children a great deal, a lot of times parents have to de-program kids from the crap that has seeped into the PSS.
     

    Lloyd

    Ultimate Member
    Mar 20, 2012
    1,106
    FEMA Camp
    It is a well know fact that teenagers have all of the answers to all of the worlds problems. In fact many teenagers would claim or act as if they know everything.

    As for most newspapers we subscribe only for the coupons.
     

    556ready

    Active Member
    Mar 5, 2012
    582
    AAco
    We have broken families, and declining religious values.
    The problem is NOT GUNS. We need to restore our values as family members and as a country.:patriot:

    Amen brother! If people would were more into family and religion, I think we would see a "healthier" society.
     

    BiG Bersa

    Banned
    BANNED!!!
    Sep 3, 2012
    5
    He didn't buy the shotgun he stole it right? how could gun control have prevented this, you cant charge someone for not properly storing weapons until after someone has committed a crime(cause the police can't know this in advance) unless this student thinks gun owners should be susceptible to unlawful search and seizure. :banghead:

    They need to make an example of people who shoot up schools IMO just put a needle in them. Monsters who attack our nations youth don't deserve to breath our air, and sure as hell don't deserve any form of sympathy, compassion, or mercy.

    Well that's my rant feel free to poke holes in it
     

    Norton

    NRA Endowment Member, Rifleman
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    May 22, 2005
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    The socialist approach is what kids are taught in public schools.

    <snip>

    Unfortunately, public schools are indoctrination centers more than education centers. They don't really teach kids to "think", they just teach them what the school administration believes are the "right answers" to questions.

    Can I ask what factual experiences you base this on?
     
    Jul 26, 2012
    64
    Maryland
    This past weekend, a Perry Hall High School student wrote an editorial piece
    in the Sunpaper ( Balto. edition of the Chicago Tribune ) in which she called for more gun laws/control.

    The problem is NOT GUNS!! Here's the problem in my opinion. This country is headed down the road of Socialism. When I say down, I mean down the toilet.
    We have become a very violent society/culture. We have violent movies, TV shows, and video games. We have declining moral values. We have broken families, and declining religious values.

    The problem is NOT GUNS. We need to restore our values as family members and as a country.:patriot:

    Humans have always been a violent species. Just look at history.
    IF it's not firearms, it's knives and clubs and whatever else is handy.
    Out of the estimated 200-300 million firearms in the country over 96% are never involved in the commission of a crime.
    The shooter obviously had some mental health issues and teenage rage issues.
    You can't blame a tool. What's next? Banning knives, forks and spoons?
     

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