Out of state gun sale

[raff696]

My bro wants to by a rifle from a friend that lives in PA. As far as I know the weapon is a m1 carbine. I never heard of that. Maybe he is thinking of a m14. Well the real question is does he need to have his. Buddy send the rifle to an md FFL dealer? I did a search on here thru the tapatalk app and didn't find anything. Thats why I'm asking.

 

[Karl/PA]

Yep, the M1 carbine shoots .30 cal M1 carbine ammo. Buddyb needs to send rifle to a MD FFL.

 

[Darkemp]

Why would he have to send it through an FFL, it's not regulated?

 

[tdt91]

Fed law requires it. State to state is not just FTF. It needs to go through an FFL to be a legal transfer.
He could go to the state where it is and have an FFL do the paper work there

 

[JCB003]

Is you bro a MD resident? If so, no transfers between individuals of different states. Must go thru MD FFL is he is a MD resident.

I didn't know a PA FFL could do it, but it makes sense if it's not regulated.

 

[raff696]

Yes my bro is a md resident. Well I just told him. I pretty much was on the right track I just needed some confirmation. I know you guys are awesome at this stuff so, any time I have gun stuff to ask I always check in here!

 

[slimj0e]

Will state to state need a transaction though an ffl

 

[raff696]

So my bro told me that he talked to a local FFL and he does not need to go thru an FFL for the transfer of the M1 Carbine. I would assume its because it's not a regulated firearm. I am 50/50 on this. I just don't want him to get in any trouble. But the FFL that told him this info is prob not completely wrong. Still with md's crazy laws I'd rather be safe then sorry.

 

[NateIU10]

So my bro told me that he talked to a local FFL and he does not need to go thru an FFL for the transfer of the M1 Carbine. I would assume its because it's not a regulated firearm. I am 50/50 on this. I just don't want him to get in any trouble. But the FFL that told him this info is prob not completely wrong. Still with md's crazy laws I'd rather be safe then sorry.

The FFL is completely wrong. Federal law requires interstate transfers to go through an FFL. Since it's not regulated, it could be a PA or MD FFL, but it HAS to go through an FFL. No gray area at all, it has to.

 

[retrorichard]

If your bro is a md resident and the m1 owner is a pa resident, he needs a ffl.

 

[mikec]

So my bro told me that he talked to a local FFL and he does not need to go thru an FFL for the transfer of the M1 Carbine. I would assume its because it's not a regulated firearm. I am 50/50 on this. I just don't want him to get in any trouble. But the FFL that told him this info is prob not completely wrong. Still with md's crazy laws I'd rather be safe then sorry.

This is NOT a state law. We are talking about the Gun Control Act of 1968. Serious Federal stuff. That FFL better learn his rules real quick otherwise ATF agents will close him down and ruin his life.

The only LEGAL exception is if your bother has an ATF 03 license, called a C&R license, and the firearm is on ATF's C&R list or over 50 years old.

 

[Andronitis]

The FFL is completely wrong. Federal law requires interstate transfers to go through an FFL. Since it's not regulated, it could be a PA or MD FFL, but it HAS to go through an FFL. No gray area at all, it has to.

Here is the deal. If you brother was buying this M1 Carbine off the shelf of a PA FFL then it does not need to go through an MD FFL since PA is a border state to MD. However since we are talking about two individuals from different states here are the options 1) PA resident ships the rifle directly to a MD FFL then your brother picks up the rifle after a 4473 and a NICS check 2) Your brother and the PA resident meet at a PA FFL and the PA dealer puts the rifle on his federal books and then runs the NICS. Either way you must involve a dealer. As mentioned before if they were both residents of the same state then this would not be an issue. Hope this helps.

 

[jonnyl]

So my bro told me that he talked to a local FFL and he does not need to go thru an FFL for the transfer of the M1 Carbine. I would assume its because it's not a regulated firearm. I am 50/50 on this. I just don't want him to get in any trouble. But the FFL that told him this info is prob not completely wrong. Still with md's crazy laws I'd rather be safe then sorry.

Is it possible the FFL didn't know the transferee was in another state?

 

[Andronitis]

Awesome link

 

[retrorichard]

Awesome link

Buddy that form doesnt work for firearms between residents of different states without a ffl.

 

[Andronitis]

Buddy that form doesnt work for firearms between residents of different states without a ffl.

Try actually checking the link before commenting.

 

[retrorichard]

Okay i didnt realize there was a second page (getting used to a new tablet).