NYC CCW case is at SCOTUS!

The #1 community for Gun Owners of the Northeast

Member Benefits:

  • No ad networks!
  • Discuss all aspects of firearm ownership
  • Discuss anti-gun legislation
  • Buy, sell, and trade in the classified section
  • Chat with Local gun shops, ranges, trainers & other businesses
  • Discover free outdoor shooting areas
  • View up to date on firearm-related events
  • Share photos & video with other members
  • ...and so much more!
  • Decoy

    Ultimate Member
    MDS Supporter
    Mar 2, 2007
    4,930
    Dystopia

    Gavin Newsom rages at Supreme Court over New York Second Amendment decision


    Just hours after the ruling, California Attorney General Rob Bonta announced that his office was working with Newsom and other Democratic leaders in the state Legislature to craft a bill in response to Thursday's decision. The new bill would specifically prohibit concealed firearms in places such as schools and voting centers, and would update the qualifications for obtaining a concealed carry permit in California. Bonta said completion of a robust "assessment of dangerousness" would be a perquisite for obtaining such a permit.

    Looks like NY and CA are going to make it almost impossible to get a permit, did they even read the decision?
     

    Boxcab

    MSI EM
    MDS Supporter
    Feb 22, 2007
    7,943
    AA County
    You can really tell who are the Puppets. Put into office not on experience or knowledge, but that they spout the party line.

    Now that the game has changed, they fall back to the only thing they know... regurgitating the Lemonade that they survive on.





    .

    Sent from my SM-G781U using Tapatalk
     

    rascal

    Ultimate Member
    Feb 15, 2013
    1,253

    Gavin Newsom rages at Supreme Court over New York Second Amendment decision




    Looks like NY and CA are going to make it almost impossible to get a permit, did they even read the decision?

    Uhm "Because any permitting scheme can be put toward abusive ends, we do not rule out constitutional challenges to shall-issue regimes where, for example, lengthy wait times in processing license applications or exorbitant fees deny ordinary citizens their right to public carry."

    They can't make it very difficult, not more so than say DC to obtain the permit. They can esp in cities where it can be exercised.
     

    ezracer

    Certified Gun Nut
    Jul 27, 2012
    4,955
    Behind enemy lines...
    I see MANY stores in Merry-land will probably post "No Firearms Allowed" signs in their store windows. In that case, what takes precedence......the store's option or the Constitution?
     

    MigraineMan

    Defenestration Specialist
    Jun 9, 2011
    19,414
    Frederick County
    Pinched from the Book of Faces ...

    scotus_nysrpa.jpg
     

    teratos

    My hair is amazing
    MDS Supporter
    Patriot Picket
    Jan 22, 2009
    59,953
    Bel Air
    I see MANY stores in Merry-land will probably post "No Firearms Allowed" signs in their store windows. In that case, what takes precedence......the store's option or the Constitution?
    In Maryland, it’s only a crime if you are asked to leave, but don’t. The BoR is binding against the government. Private property rights still apply.
     

    rascal

    Ultimate Member
    Feb 15, 2013
    1,253
    Why would you remove your gun in response to a "no gun" sign on a store rather than merely make sure it's adequately concealed? What's the worst that can happen- they ask you to leave?

    Because of you know about concealed carry laws, some states the signs have "force of law" meaning you are per se committing a crime, and they may not just ask you to leave, but call the cops and you will go to jail. Last time I looked Virginia did not have force of law, so they can merely ask you to leave. In DC if there is proper signage and you are carrying you are per se not carrying legally and committing a crime. It is almost a certainty that Maryland will go with force of law as it is a blue state
     

    TI-tick

    Ultimate Member
    BANNED!!!
    MDS Supporter
    I really never understood how red flag laws could work when they clearly violate numerous parts of the Constitution. And given that "text and tradition" are now the only test for applying the Constitutional validity of these laws, they will not be able to use public safety as the rationale for taking firearms away from someone who has not been proven guilty of a crime.

    Gavin Newsom rages at Supreme Court over New York Second Amendment decision




    Looks like NY and CA are going to make it almost impossible to get a permit, did they even read the decision?
    That ******* douche! They already passed legislation for CCW qualifications to comply with POST standards. The SC decision effectively takes away the ability for the SF, SJ, LA, Yolo, and whatever ****** up County CLEO to arbitrarily say no to a CCW.

    A hole Bonta.
     

    rascal

    Ultimate Member
    Feb 15, 2013
    1,253
    They do. Explosives for example. Flame throwers. Artillery. That would be dangerous and unusual in normal ownership. I agree warships, grenades, and cannons were ABSOLUTELY owned by private individuals in colonial times and in to the 19th century. But they weren’t in common ownership.
    Lots of people own flamethrowers, not even controlled in most states.

    Lol, looking further one out of the 50 US states prohibits flamethrowers: Maryland

    In the United States, flamethrowers are broadly legal for personal ownership and use. California requires a permit for the possession of a flamethrower, and only Maryland has outright banned their ownership and use. No federal laws exist regarding flamethrowers, as they are not defined as weapons under the National Firearms Act.
     

    Jim12

    Let Freedom Ring
    MDS Supporter
    Jan 30, 2013
    34,301
    As a CA and UT CCW holder I'm looking for reciprocity in MD; actually, across all states. I would think with this decision a permit in one state would be good in another.

    With the NY and CA Gov's apoplectic, you know it's a good day!
    Curious that the left exults the SC when they decides things they like and then decries when the SC decides things they don't like. Mental disease.

    From Newscum in CA:
    "A dark day in America," he tweeted. "This is a dangerous decision from a court hell bent on pushing a radical ideological agenda and infringing on the rights of states to protect our citizens from being gunned down in our streets, schools, and churches. Shameful."

    https://www.sfgate.com/politics/art...s-Supreme-Court-after-gun-ruling-17260655.php
    Yes, Californians are too busy and gainfully occupied dying of fentanyl overdoses in the streets, at three times the rate of homicides using guns, to be gunned down in CA's streets.

    Newsom is a phony bag of Hollywood bullsh*t, like nearly every CA pol at the state and federal level. Life to them is a Hollywood production, starring themselves.
     

    BeoBill

    Crank in the Third Row
    MDS Supporter
    Oct 3, 2013
    27,289
    南馬里蘭州鮑伊
    That ******* douche! They already passed legislation for CCW qualifications to comply with POST standards. The SC decision effectively takes away the ability for the SF, SJ, LA, Yolo, and whatever ****** up County CLEO to arbitrarily say no to a CCW.

    A hole Bonta.
    You forget - Nancy's nephew thinks he's a king. He has Imperial Immunity. Just like her hubby and his DUI "inconvenience"...
     

    Doctor_M

    Certified Mad Scientist
    MDS Supporter
    They do. Explosives for example. Flame throwers. Artillery. That would be dangerous and unusual in normal ownership. I agree warships, grenades, and cannons were ABSOLUTELY owned by private individuals in colonial times and in to the 19th century. But they weren’t in common ownership.

    I wouldn’t hold your breath that even this SCOTUS is going to rule NFA needs to be done away with or that things like explosives and explosive devices should be unregulated or controlled.
    Flame throwers I believe are legal in 48 states (Maryland is not one).
     

    dogbone

    Ultimate Member
    Nov 14, 2011
    2,981
    GTT - Gone To Texas
    I see MANY stores in Merry-land will probably post "No Firearms Allowed" signs in their store windows. In that case, what takes precedence......the store's option or the Constitution?
    Here in Texas, property owners have a choice of several restrictions on carry. One, the 30.06 sign, prohibits concealed carry by a license holder. A 30.07 sign prohibits Open Carry but allows concealed. A 30.05 sign prohibits unlicensed or permitless carry.

    One problem we have faced is anti-gun harpies telling a property owner they will be held legally liable for any firearms incident if they don't post one of these signs. Patently false but that never stops the other side. Educating some property owners is possible but some, particularly in the Austin area, are a lost cause. Letting them know they lost a customer because of the sign is about the best we can do.
     

    Users who are viewing this thread

    Latest posts

    Forum statistics

    Threads
    275,959
    Messages
    7,302,402
    Members
    33,545
    Latest member
    guitarsit

    Latest threads

    Top Bottom