NFA FAQ **Read me first**

[Hooker2]

LOL i thought the subject heading was NFA Fag hahaha

Rugby player.

 

[Kharn]

You would have to get the SBR stamp before you add the stock.

 

[shadow116]

As I am in the saving mode for a SBR and a Can, I have a question.

On traveling across state lines, I understand the Form 5320.20 is needed to cross statelines, I live about 5 miles from freedom (the PA Stateline) and shoot in PA probably once a month.

Would I have to send a new form every month, based on my plans for the next month? or is there an easier way??

 

[boatbiologist]

you only need to fax ATF for the SBR.

The suppressor can travel across state lines (to suppressor friendly states like PA) without telling ATF.

This is one reason I went with an integral over 16 inches.

 

[shadow116]

I understand about the can not needing the form, my question is there something I can do besides sending a new form every two or three weeks (for a SBR), because I plan on traveling from MD to PA every month to shoot.

 

[FIREHAWK]

I'm a bit confused (as usual). I was thinking of buying a GSG5K .22cal pistol adding a colapsable stock and suppressor (to the allready short/threaded barrel). Aside from first getting my stamp for the suppressor I would allso have to do a form 1 for converting a pistol into an SBR. Is my thought pattern correct or do I have it wrong?

the gsg5k is not on the md approved list only the rifles and pistols are currently legal in md

 

[boricuamaximus]

The link to the ATF form 1 here. Can I fill that out and send it to ATF or do I have to order one from them directly?

 

[GoufCustom]

My first Form 1

I am going the individual route, if my local CLEO will sign, do I need to have the MSP do a background check?

Can my local CLEO office do the fingerprint cards?

 

[coinboy]

the gsg5k is not on the md approved list only the rifles and pistols are currently legal in md

Not sure. But I think you mean the GSG5pk. And that is on the Roster.

 

[araugh]

FYI folks, the 2010 version of quicken willmaker DOES NOT include creating a living trust like the previous versions do. Don't waste your money like I did.

 

[dwnthehatch]

FYI folks, the 2010 version of quicken willmaker DOES NOT include creating a living trust like the previous versions do. Don't waste your money like I did.

I would hold off on using any will maker programs for now.

See this thread: http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=31132

 

[JeepDriver]

FYI folks, the 2010 version of quicken willmaker DOES NOT include creating a living trust like the previous versions do. Don't waste your money like I did.

With ATF cracking down on Trust, I would hold off on all new Trust applications currently. Hopefully those of us who have been doing Trust transfers for years, and have established Trust will still be able to continue with our transfers. I'm 6 months into a Form 4 transfer on my origional Trust from March of '06. I hope I'm not getting caught up in the BS in WV !

I'm removing the Trust info from the FAQ until things get settled and ATF makes a ruling on Trust transfers.

 

[boatbod]

With ATF cracking down on Trust, I would hold off on all new Trust applications currently. Hopefully those of us who have been doing Trust transfers for years, and have established Trust will still be able to continue with our transfers. I'm 6 months into a Form 4 transfer on my origional Trust from March of '06. I hope I'm not getting caught up in the BS in WV !

I'm removing the Trust info from the FAQ until things get settled and ATF makes a ruling on Trust transfers.

Mine went through ok, so there doesn't seem to be a blanket rejection of Quicken trusts. Although I can't be sure, I think some of the issue is with people adjusting the listed trustees/beneficiaries in an inconsistent manner.

Even though the ATF does appear to be reviewing them more thoroughly, I see no reason not to go the trust route if it's appropriate for your situation.

 

[Markp]

I understand about the can not needing the form, my question is there something I can do besides sending a new form every two or three weeks (for a SBR), because I plan on traveling from MD to PA every month to shoot.

Yes, you can send a form that indicates that you will be traveling there on a regular basis and that form will work for the whole year... so once a year is all you need to do it, provided you tell them that you are going to be going there regularly. The ATF regulations cover this (I think it's 27 CFR 478 or 27 CFR 479.)

Mark

 

[ar15dave]

Well I am confused as to the difference between the Delcaration of Trus and the Certification of Trust. What is the difference. I thought as long as you have a notorized copy of a Declaration of Trust and Schedule A sent with F4 you were good to go for a silencer. What is a Certification of Trust?

Is that still the way to go or is the ATF cracking down on these?

Dave

 

[boatbod]

Well I am confused as to the difference between the Delcaration of Trus and the Certification of Trust. What is the difference. I thought as long as you have a notorized copy of a Declaration of Trust and Schedule A sent with F4 you were good to go for a silencer. What is a Certification of Trust?

Is that still the way to go or is the ATF cracking down on these?

Dave

The Declaration of Trust is the full trust document that you send to the BATF with your Form 1 or Form 4. The Certification of Trust is an abbreviated version that basically just states your trust legally exists without going in to details. It's useless from an ATF standpoint, so no need to send it with an application.

As far as the ATF "cracking down" on trusts, I believe they may still be giving them a little more scrutiny than in times past, but they certainly aren't rejecting the legal ones, even if they were produced by Quicken Willmaker.

 

[ar15dave]

Sweet thanks!

 

[thatguy]

Guys, forgive my ignorance if this is common knowledge... I did try searching the forum here and also the ATF website... but I could not find. As for the $200 payment for the tax stamp on an SBR.... what are the acceptable forms of payment? Does it have to be a personal check, can it be a money order... like a postal money order? If thats acceptable, who should it be made payable to?

 

[80thdiv313fa]

Guys, forgive my ignorance if this is common knowledge... I did try searching the forum here and also the ATF website... but I could not find. As for the $200 payment for the tax stamp on an SBR.... what are the acceptable forms of payment? Does it have to be a personal check, can it be a money order... like a postal money order? If thats acceptable, who should it be made payable to?

Personal check or any type of money order may be used. Make it out to the Department of Justice.

 

[Hopalong]

I'll likely be picking up a .22 can at some point in the future. From what I've read (mostly here), you only need to do paperwork for the can itself and not each firearm you're planning on using it with. Is that correct?

(That's assuming that there's no SBR/AOW/etc. paperwork associated with the firearms; I'd just be swapping it between a "plain" pistol and rifle)