gazingwa
Van Down By The River
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My facebook converstion with a liberal common friend.
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I have been biting my tongue regarding all FB exchanges regarding gun control and politics in general.
People need to speak out.
gazingwa
Van Down By The River
Exactly. If these uninformed people keep running their mouth, you might not have any rights left to defend.
Their view offends me therefore I don't care if mine offends them. As long as you keep it civil this type of discussion is a good thing.
HardHatMan
FBHO
wat?
lol. The Hughes amendment banned further registration of machine guns. There are still a fair amount of registered and transferable machine guns out there.
gazingwa
Van Down By The River
Yes, there are a fair number out there but you can't easily go buy new ones and they are HIGHLY regulated. I wasn't going to sit there and explain all of that. Then we'd get a call to go around and take those.
If they can be selective with wording, so can I.
It's not really that much more regulated than a suppressor or a short barreled rifle. They're expensive.
Here's a fun fact: in the nearly 80 year history of the NFA, only two registered machine guns were ever used in a homicide. One of those homicides was perpetrated by a cop.
gazingwa
Van Down By The River
Thanks, I don't claim I'm an expert, I'm just tired of sitting around watching rediculous statements fly by my screen. I was refering to th 86 ban and yes, I knew they were still out there and legal but why give them more info than they need.
Neat fact Thanks. But i can hear it now:
But if we can save just one life...
squirrelly1
Member
- Sep 10, 2012
- 57
There's a lot of ignorance out there. I think it's our job to school these folks a little!
krztov
Active Member
I've schooled at least 2-3 friends and had one delete me, lots of people really do base their reactions on misinformation that gets spread around.
Dirichlet
Active Member
- Jan 3, 2013
- 333
I've taken a few to school as well. And, I've lost a few "friends" over the argument. It's amazing how otherwise (seemingly) intelligent people can get all bent up in the emotional reaction that we need to "ban guns to save the children." It really is sad.
gazingwa
Van Down By The River
This isn't my first argument, I was just really pissed when I was done and had to vent, I figured where better than here. It is ongoing and I really don't care if I loose friends on this. A real friend would value my opinion not leave because I don't agree.
Kashmir1008
MSI Executive Member
Actually gazingwa, in the interest of being completely accurate, full auto firearms are not illegal. They are heavily regulated but can in fact be owned by the public. In 1986 the government passed a law that created a cut off date to register full auto firearms. As long as the firearm was registered by 1986 you were good to go. What that did was effectively dry up the supply of full autos. That's why they are so expensive today ($3000-$25,000)
They only new full autos that can be manufactured today are for military / government use.
Just keeping our facts straight.
gazingwa
Van Down By The River
I appreciate that, please read below, it was already acknowledged. I knew the basics of this law and that older than 86 was okay. It was a response to the claim of selectable fire in current law by the person I was arguing against. I haven't shot a full auto myselft but my uncle and cousin back home(god I miss home except for the snow) rent one regularly.
IMO, a percentage (be it a small one) of the anti gun crowd knows they're wrong. I think they are TERRIFIED to admit that mass shootings happen and NOTHING can be done to completely stop it.
Convincing them that there are ways to deter it and counter it would be a GREAT step forward.
As far as "Ban guns to save the children" goes...I hate to say it but, no one person is more important than individual freedom.
Flame away.
Convincing them that there are ways to deter it and counter it would be a GREAT step forward.
As far as "Ban guns to save the children" goes...I hate to say it but, no one person is more important than individual freedom.
Flame away.
HKB
Ultimate Member
We should ban swimming pools to save children.
If we can just save one life, a child is 10 times more likely to drown in a pool then to be shot by a firearm, you know it's for the children.
If we can just save one life, a child is 10 times more likely to drown in a pool then to be shot by a firearm, you know it's for the children.
I've been pushing for this for about a month now.
I've NEVER heard of a pool saving a life. We have air conditioning now. They don't have a purpose in today's society. And you don't even have to get training or a permit before getting one!!!!
Matlack
Scribe
- Dec 15, 2008
- 8,560
Are his initials C.G.?
AwesomeBill
Awesome Member
Correct. Be polite, but call out the ******** whenever it pops up. There is no reason to cower for fear of offending the other side. Take the high road in the argument, but do not allow ******** to pass as fact.
I might lose some "real world" friends because I have decided to take this stance. Fine. I have no respect for people that embrace falsehoods and get pissed when facts are presented.
Everyone can have their own opinion, but it better be based on facts. That's not me paraphrasing the quote, that's my view on this issue.
