MD AG files Amicus Brief for RI mag limit

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  • pcfixer

    Ultimate Member
    May 24, 2009
    5,955
    Marylandstan
    In this case, I'd be ok with that.
    Yes, Me too.

    BUT. Maryland courts will not win.

    Fortunately, the plain text analysis is not difficult because the Supreme Court has already defined the key terms of the guarantee that "the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed." Here are some of those definitions:

    • "The people" facially means "all Americans." District of Columbia v. Heller (2008).
    • "Arms" facially means "all instruments that constitute bearable arms."
    • "Keep Arms" facially means "have weapons." Heller.
    • "Shall not be infringed" facially means that the right conferred by the Second Amendment is an "unqualified command." Bruen.
    The Supreme Court has long held that the constitutional text also encompasses necessarily-included matters that are required for the exercise of a right and thus includes rights "implicit in enumerated guarantees."

    Halbrook and other Lawyers all contend that Magazines- all 20 or 30 round magazines ARE part of the bearable arms. Just as bullets,
    and furniture, triggers etc. ALL

     

    Doco Overboard

    Ultimate Member
    BANNED!!!
    You've failed to grasp the fact that he does not work for the people of MD. Their job is to pay the taxes that pay him; his job is to follow the dictates of those who control the Democratic Party.

    You can send letters until the postage bankrupts you. No one in charge gives a rat's are about your opinions or concerns, because your concerns are not theirs.
    Nah.... if you asked me his job is to prevent the rank and file citizenry from interpreting what has already been written and clearly defined.
    Or he, they or whomever are longer needed.
    Thats what people fail to grasp and the poster is on to it.
    Trained monkeys protecting an establishment and method. Not the law, regardless of the proposal.
    What you suggested is, a roadblock deliberately placed to stem the efforts of an opposing interest and rendering the compliant invalid without being argued in a legitimate forum of peers, not like minded profiteers.
     

    Occam

    Not Even ONE Indictment
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    Feb 24, 2018
    20,427
    Montgomery County
    “…leaving many other options open for individuals who wish to exercise the core Second Amendment right to self-defense.”

    That is an ancillary right. The core 2A right is anti-tyranny.
    Nah, I'd say just like the rest of the Bill of Rights, the 2A is defending what we'd call a natural right to self defense. Defense against murderers, bandits, wild animals, tyrannical officials, dirty commie hippies, space aliens, steel targets, etc. ALL of those things call out for armed self defense. A threatening government is just one of them. Remember, the founders wrote that having just experienced the Crown saying that they had to give up their weapons because the British Army was there to take care of any defense needs people might have. Which is nonsense of course, unless you have your own personally loyal detachment going everywhere with you and your family and your business operations.

    Self defense is self defense - whether it's against rabid wolverines or a State governor who's just decided he should have the monopoly on armed power in your state.
     

    Bob A

    όυ φροντισ
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    Nov 11, 2009
    31,007
    Nah.... if you asked me his job is to prevent the rank and file citizenry from interpreting what has already been written and clearly defined.
    Or he, they or whomever are longer needed.
    Thats what people fail to grasp and the poster is on to it.
    Trained monkeys protecting an establishment and method. Not the law, regardless of the proposal.
    What you suggested is, a roadblock deliberately placed to stem the efforts of an opposing interest and rendering the compliant invalid without being argued in a legitimate forum of peers, not like minded profiteers.
    Sending letters to the state AG is a waste of time, postage and expectation.

    His job is to defend the laws written by the legislature, by prosecuting those who break them. He does his masters' bidding by attacking attempts to alter the wishes and will of the legislature, as in this joining an amicus brief against a challenge to a MD-style infringement elsewhere.

    Of course, you're free to send all the letters you wish. The windmills of Government await your charge,.
     

    fishgutzy

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    MDS Supporter
    Aug 25, 2022
    945
    AA County
    AG filed a knowingly false brief.
    There is no such thing as a "fundamental right of every citizen to live in peace." (AKA Right to safety)
    If there were, then there would be absolutely no limit to how the government could violate every other right in order to "protect" a right to safety.
    If a mag restriction to 10 rounds was deemed "constitutional" then there is nothing to prevent a state or feds from banning everything but single shot muzzle loaders and breach load pistols, rifles, and shotguns. We all know that is exactly what they plan to do. Bernie Sanders said it out loud. They will ban every firearm not specifically designed for hunting. Bernie believes that only criminals and the gov't can have guns. That is the only way they can achieve their communist wet dream.
     

    fishgutzy

    Active Member
    MDS Supporter
    Aug 25, 2022
    945
    AA County
    Another stupid law. Because just about everyone has standard capacity magazines for All rifles & pistols.
    Even the criminals don't obey this law.

    ""In Maryland, no one may manufacture, sell, offer for sale, purchase, receive, or transfer a detachable magazine that has a capacity of more than 10 rounds of ammunition for a firearm.""


    OWN them, Yes and not illegal.
    And purchase when visiting a free state.
     

    MigraineMan

    Defenestration Specialist
    Jun 9, 2011
    19,305
    Frederick County
    [T]he states argue that the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution permits states to enact reasonable firearms regulations, including those that restrict the size of firearm magazines, which protect public safety, prevent crime, and reduce the harm caused by gun violence.
    Uhm ...
    "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
    Oh, the explicit permission for reasonable restrictions and all of those other words ... there they are ... right between "shall not" and "be infringed."
     

    jcutonilli

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    Mar 28, 2013
    2,474
    I'm sorry, the MD attorney general should concern himself with Maryland. This is a waste of taxpayers money.

    Federal fraud waste and abuse complaint?
    He is concerned with MD. We have a similar law in MD and he wants to make sure that other circuits don't undermine MD law by deciding the case in favor of the plaintiffs. I doubt that MD did much work. It was likely written by MA as they are the lead amicus listed on the brief. The IL awb case had an amicus brief from 23 states filed on behalf of the plaintiffs . It is something that both sides do for certain cases.
     

    Doco Overboard

    Ultimate Member
    BANNED!!!
    Sending letters to the state AG is a waste of time, postage and expectation.

    His job is to defend the laws written by the legislature, by prosecuting those who break them. He does his masters' bidding by attacking attempts to alter the wishes and will of the legislature, as in this joining an amicus brief against a challenge to a MD-style infringement elsewhere.

    Of course, you're free to send all the letters you wish. The windmills of Government await your charge,.
    And exactly how well is the AG doing prosecuting lawbreakers then?
    The windmills of common sense await your thoughtful reply.
    Feel free to not get it and do your own bidding.
    You are the master of your own expectations.
    And save a dime while your at it if you so choose.
     

    JohnnyE

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    MDS Supporter
    Jan 18, 2013
    9,640
    MoCo
    AG Brown, the safety of Marylanders is best served by government respecting a robust second amendment. While present day violent deaths are reprehensible, only an armed populace has the ultimate power to resist tyranny seeking and taking power, and bringing with it tens of millions of deaths. Big picture, AG Brown...see the big picture. Fight today's violent deaths in a manner that respects the second amendment. Your toolkit is not unlimited.
     

    MigraineMan

    Defenestration Specialist
    Jun 9, 2011
    19,305
    Frederick County
    AG Brown, the safety of Marylanders is best served by government respecting a robust second amendment. While present day violent deaths are reprehensible, only an armed populace has the ultimate power to resist tyranny seeking and taking power, and bringing with it tens of millions of deaths. Big picture, AG Brown...see the big picture. Fight today's violent deaths in a manner that respects the second amendment. Your toolkit is not unlimited.
    Or maybe, AG Brown, you could enforce the law and prosecute the violent offenders here in Maryland. You can address the political misconduct and revenge pr0n cases after all the violent crime in this state is resolved.

    Or just shrug and throw your hands into the air, exclaiming "what am I supposed to do about violent crime???"
     

    Bob A

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    Nov 11, 2009
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    And exactly how well is the AG doing prosecuting lawbreakers then?
    The windmills of common sense await your thoughtful reply.
    Feel free to not get it and do your own bidding.
    You are the master of your own expectations.
    And save a dime while your at it if you so choose.

    Just tell us how your letter campaign works out for you.
     

    Bob A

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    Nov 11, 2009
    31,007
    A child knows its easier to buy soda with dimes instead of pennies and nickles.
    BTW, I never mentioned writing a letter or starting a campaign.
    You did.
    Actually Apd09 did. Then you replied to my response to him.
     

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