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Maryland Shall Issue - "Scarlet G for Gun Owner" Bills - Response
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Awesome point!
jjbduke2004
Ultimate Member
Mission Accomplished Capti-tan
I just ripped the text from the OP and sent it to:
Delegates
Guy Guzzone
Shane E. Pendergrass
Frank S. Turner
Senator
James N. Robey
Ah, I see you're in Dist 13 too. Let me know how they respond. I plan on writing, but with all the different bills to oppose and support, it will take time.
I believe Robey is somewhat anti based on his response posted here regarding the Open Holster Rally. He is the former police chief of HoCo (read "politician in uniform") who launched a political career after retirement (county exec and then senator).
On the bright side, I have not seen anyone from 13 appear as a cosponsor of any of these bad bills.
On the downside, I haven't seen them cosponsor any gun friendly bills either
+1. Good to see you here
- May 22, 2005
- 122,908
That's like saying that Rosie O'Donnell is somewhat fat. He's as anti as they come.
This to The Bowie-Blade
Two bills are before the General Assembly that would adversely affect every gun owner in the state.
Senate Bill 645 and House Bill 820 mandate a state-issued Firearm Owner ID card in order to purchase a handgun.
Residents purchasing a handgun, rifle or shotgun would have their driver’s licenses notated that they own a gun.
Residents will pay police authorities to verify identification, secure fingerprints, and conduct background checks.
This, folks, violates your civil rights.
The State has no authority to demand and we the people have no obligation to honor any legislation that would isolate and classify certain segments of the general population, be them gun owners or members of particular religions.
Demanding citizens undergo fingerprinting in the exercise of their rights is the mark of a despotic government.
Open-ended, non-refundable fees is tomfoolery.
These bills do nothing to reduce crime. But then, that’s not the sponsors' intent. Senator Frosh and Delegate Rosenberg dislike guns and won’t be happy until they’re totally removed from the hands of ordinary people.
Contact your elected officials and tell them “It isn’t going to happen!”
Two bills are before the General Assembly that would adversely affect every gun owner in the state.
Senate Bill 645 and House Bill 820 mandate a state-issued Firearm Owner ID card in order to purchase a handgun.
Residents purchasing a handgun, rifle or shotgun would have their driver’s licenses notated that they own a gun.
Residents will pay police authorities to verify identification, secure fingerprints, and conduct background checks.
This, folks, violates your civil rights.
The State has no authority to demand and we the people have no obligation to honor any legislation that would isolate and classify certain segments of the general population, be them gun owners or members of particular religions.
Demanding citizens undergo fingerprinting in the exercise of their rights is the mark of a despotic government.
Open-ended, non-refundable fees is tomfoolery.
These bills do nothing to reduce crime. But then, that’s not the sponsors' intent. Senator Frosh and Delegate Rosenberg dislike guns and won’t be happy until they’re totally removed from the hands of ordinary people.
Contact your elected officials and tell them “It isn’t going to happen!”
From the first link this is innaccurate:
The reason I am pointing this out is because I have known people who have had a DWI conviction in the 1960s who got a DUI many decades later and were considered subsequent offenders.
If anyone got a DUI in their entire life, then if they get a second one they will lose their entire collection of handguns or lose their home protection handgun and not be allowed to have one for five years.
Now this part I absolutely love:
MD has 12,000 handgun permit holders, but MA has 224,000 licensed to carry concealed handgun and abolut the same state population. Much safer state indeed, and it is probably because so many law abidign citizens are allowed to be armed. This is the perfect opportunity to use his own words against him!
Three comments:
1) We need to also point out that this effort will cause funding expenditures, even in light of the possibility of the (undefined) increases to regulated firearms dealer licenses. Given the budget shortfall, any bill that has the potential to cost money (as this one will - making handgun permits, etc) is not a wise idea given our current economic climate.
2) I like the idea of the ACLU, but I investigated this before. The "public" stance is that they are "neutral" towards the 2A, but in reality, their track record is much different than that. Even if they get help to get the wiretap portion deleted, I doubt (in my opinion) they would scrap anything else.
3) Thanks to everyone on this thread who has written in about this horrific bill. I am doing the same and letting everyone know about this thread and the information contained.
1) We need to also point out that this effort will cause funding expenditures, even in light of the possibility of the (undefined) increases to regulated firearms dealer licenses. Given the budget shortfall, any bill that has the potential to cost money (as this one will - making handgun permits, etc) is not a wise idea given our current economic climate.
2) I like the idea of the ACLU, but I investigated this before. The "public" stance is that they are "neutral" towards the 2A, but in reality, their track record is much different than that. Even if they get help to get the wiretap portion deleted, I doubt (in my opinion) they would scrap anything else.
3) Thanks to everyone on this thread who has written in about this horrific bill. I am doing the same and letting everyone know about this thread and the information contained.
janoss
Active Member
- Oct 1, 2009
- 126
Snow day, perfect time to send the emails to the Maryland Senators and Delegates.
http://www.associatedgunclubs.org/legislative/temporary/ACTION ALERT.pdf
Civic Action Email system
http://www.ksconline.net/
The Libs have contempt for their constituents. Putting the heat on their colleagues my help stop these people. Calls and Faxes work too.
http://www.associatedgunclubs.org/legislative/temporary/ACTION ALERT.pdf
Civic Action Email system
http://www.ksconline.net/
The Libs have contempt for their constituents. Putting the heat on their colleagues my help stop these people. Calls and Faxes work too.
Would bringing this to their attention cause them to make the fee for this "service" higher? Careful what you wish for.
pcfixer
Ultimate Member
I'm in Frederick, REAL Blizzard outside. So I've sent Senator and Delegates emails
today. I sent for me, my wife, and one from each Daughter. Thinking I may send one
for my grandsons too.. one is 13 and the other will soon be 11. Both love to shoot
and hunt with both their pappy's..
today. I sent for me, my wife, and one from each Daughter. Thinking I may send one
for my grandsons too.. one is 13 and the other will soon be 11. Both love to shoot
and hunt with both their pappy's..
two things:
1 - sending snail mail letters to both Judiciary committees today (emails sent previously). and I've received permission from Oleg Volk to use the image below if anyone else would like to use it also. Seems particularly appropriate for this bill.
2 - between bad google mojo and conference calls from work I haven't been able to find the thread that had the Baltimore Sun article (I think). that talked about the high percentage of murders being committed by repeat offenders. NOT the "bad guys with guns" article that focused on a particular bad guy and the Chief's rant. This one had statistics like "80% of all gun crime is committed by previously convicted felons" etc.. NOTE: I made that stat up, but it was something like that.. so any help finding it would be greatly appreciated.
Here's the image I'm putting in my letters:
1 - sending snail mail letters to both Judiciary committees today (emails sent previously). and I've received permission from Oleg Volk to use the image below if anyone else would like to use it also. Seems particularly appropriate for this bill.
2 - between bad google mojo and conference calls from work I haven't been able to find the thread that had the Baltimore Sun article (I think). that talked about the high percentage of murders being committed by repeat offenders. NOT the "bad guys with guns" article that focused on a particular bad guy and the Chief's rant. This one had statistics like "80% of all gun crime is committed by previously convicted felons" etc.. NOTE: I made that stat up, but it was something like that.. so any help finding it would be greatly appreciated.
Here's the image I'm putting in my letters:
Attachments
e-mails, voicemails and snail mails sent again. I also fowarded this to every group I belong to, synangogue, IWLA and everyone else I could think of.
I will do this again in a few days.
I will do this again in a few days.
wreckdiver
Ultimate Member
- Nov 13, 2008
- 2,948
I sent out the "carpet bomb" email to all the MD senators and delegates. Most sent the usual "out of of office" replay but a few said they would consider it. One was even positive.
Thank you for writing to me about House Bill 820. I will oppose both HB820 and Senate Bill 645. The NRA does endorse me because of my voting record concerning gun control issues. I appreciate hearing from you about House Bill 820.
Pamela G. Beidle
Delegate, District 32
(410)841-3370
Environmental Matters Committee
Subcommittees:
Environment
Housing and Real Property
Local Government and Bi-County
Thank you for writing to me about House Bill 820. I will oppose both HB820 and Senate Bill 645. The NRA does endorse me because of my voting record concerning gun control issues. I appreciate hearing from you about House Bill 820.
Pamela G. Beidle
Delegate, District 32
(410)841-3370
Environmental Matters Committee
Subcommittees:
Environment
Housing and Real Property
Local Government and Bi-County
wreckdiver
Ultimate Member
- Nov 13, 2008
- 2,948
We should make those links a sticky, it's so easy to type a few lines and hit send. What a great way to let all the senators and delegates know your opinion. These new bills along with the new "assault weapons ban" look pretty serious.
Reinhaard1
Member
Hi folks. Long time lurker but finally joined up today! Posted a long wind Hello post in the Introduction Thread if you are interested. Basically, I have had enough of the antis proposed bills and realized it was time for me to get off of my ass and join the fight.
Anyway, I have been using the email tool to contact both of the judiciary committees as well as my district delegates and senator. I received a pleasant response from Del. Malone (I am a Howard county resident) that I wanted to share regarding this bill:
Dear (Reinhaard1),
Thank you for your e-mail. It is great to hear from you!
I am AGAINST this bill! Hope you and your family are
well and stay warm!
Sincerely,
Delegate Jimmy Malone
James E. Malone, Jr.
Vice Chair
Environmental Matters Committee
Phone: 410.841.3378
Fax: 410.841.3509
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To: Malone, James Delegate
Subject: Oppose HB 820
As a constituent of district 12A, I respectfully request that that you oppose HB 820.
This bill is an affront on the civil liberties of law abiding gun owners in Maryland. Requiring gun purchasers to obtain a special designation on their driver's license is akin to branding them as some sort of undesirable.
The process for law abiding citizens to purchase most firearms in this state is already draconian. HB 820 serves no good purpose.
Thank you,
(Reinhaard1)
Anyway, I have been using the email tool to contact both of the judiciary committees as well as my district delegates and senator. I received a pleasant response from Del. Malone (I am a Howard county resident) that I wanted to share regarding this bill:
Dear (Reinhaard1),
Thank you for your e-mail. It is great to hear from you!
I am AGAINST this bill! Hope you and your family are
well and stay warm!
Sincerely,
Delegate Jimmy Malone
James E. Malone, Jr.
Vice Chair
Environmental Matters Committee
Phone: 410.841.3378
Fax: 410.841.3509
----------------------------------------------------------------------
To: Malone, James Delegate
Subject: Oppose HB 820
As a constituent of district 12A, I respectfully request that that you oppose HB 820.
This bill is an affront on the civil liberties of law abiding gun owners in Maryland. Requiring gun purchasers to obtain a special designation on their driver's license is akin to branding them as some sort of undesirable.
The process for law abiding citizens to purchase most firearms in this state is already draconian. HB 820 serves no good purpose.
Thank you,
(Reinhaard1)
- May 22, 2005
- 122,908
- May 22, 2005
- 122,908
Folks,
A reminder for those still feeling out the legislative process.
It's great to be hitting all of the legislators, but the members of the respective committees, as noted in the Updates, are the ones that need our attention.
The bill has to be heard in committee, voted on, and given a favorable report before it ever appears before the respective body in the General Assembly for a vote.
The pressure needs to be exerted on the members of the committees.
The second group that should be given your undying attention are the sponsors. Make it hurt for them to sponsor nonsense like this. Make their offices cease to function because they can't answer the phone, check email or use a fax because we are monopolizing them.
A reminder for those still feeling out the legislative process.
It's great to be hitting all of the legislators, but the members of the respective committees, as noted in the Updates, are the ones that need our attention.
The bill has to be heard in committee, voted on, and given a favorable report before it ever appears before the respective body in the General Assembly for a vote.
The pressure needs to be exerted on the members of the committees.
The second group that should be given your undying attention are the sponsors. Make it hurt for them to sponsor nonsense like this. Make their offices cease to function because they can't answer the phone, check email or use a fax because we are monopolizing them.
