Maryland Designated Regulated Firearms Collector

[ShallNotInfringe]

The COMAR states the following:

I. If the individual is not prohibited by federal or State law from purchasing or possessing a regulated firearm, the notarized application shall be sufficient for a designation as a collector.

This means that either a background check has been done or needs to be done to approve the DC. If there's a record of one having been done, it's a piece of cake for the DC to be approved, just getting to it in the stack.

If there is no record of a BG check being done, one has to be run, which sounds like the equivalent to. 2nd review and would require further action, thus the delay.

 

[bogus130]

I never made a regulated purchase before sending my app in. Got it in the same time as everyone else.

 

[ShallNotInfringe]

I never made a regulated purchase before sending my app in. Got it in the same time as everyone else.

Maybe she was in a good mood that day and went ahead and did the check then. I could see putting it off for a designated day to do the more difficult task as opposed to doing it "inline".

 

[Dave T]

The COMAR states the following:

I. If the individual is not prohibited by federal or State law from purchasing or possessing a regulated firearm, the notarized application shall be sufficient for a designation as a collector.

This means that either a background check has been done or needs to be done to approve the DC. If there's a record of one having been done, it's a piece of cake for the DC to be approved, just getting to it in the stack.

If there is no record of a BG check being done, one has to be run, which sounds like the equivalent to. 2nd review and would require further action, thus the delay.

Based on this logic, if someone has purchased a regulated firearm in the past, then no checks would be needed for new purchases. As we know though, they do a check on each purchase in case something new has popped up in our dossier.

Does anyone know for sure what type of check(s) Trooper Thompson does and how far back she looks to see if prior purchases have been made?

 

[ShallNotInfringe]

Based on this logic, if someone has purchased a regulated firearm in the past, then no checks would be needed for new purchases. As we know though, they do a check on each purchase in case something new has popped up in our dossier.

Does anyone know for sure what type of check(s) Trooper Thompson does and how far back she looks to see if prior purchases have been made?

Ya, logic and Maryland don't mix well do they?

 

[Ragnar]

The COMAR states the following:

I. If the individual is not prohibited by federal or State law from purchasing or possessing a regulated firearm, the notarized application shall be sufficient for a designation as a collector.

This means that either a background check has been done or needs to be done to approve the DC. If there's a record of one having been done, it's a piece of cake for the DC to be approved, just getting to it in the stack.

If there is no record of a BG check being done, one has to be run, which sounds like the equivalent to. 2nd review and would require further action, thus the delay.

Just because somebody bought a regulated gun in Maryland a month ago or six months ago or 5 years ago doesn't mean they are "not prohibited by federal or State law from purchasing or possessing a regulated firearm" today.

 

[ShallNotInfringe]

Just because somebody bought a regulated gun in Maryland a month ago or six months ago or 5 years ago doesn't mean they are "not prohibited by federal or State law from purchasing or possessing a regulated firearm" today.

Agreed.

Make your own assessment of why it takes longer to get a DC (in most cases) if you don't have a purchase.

Maybe if you put in for a DC the same day you make a purchase, you should be able to argue that the DC is a NOT DISAPPROVED for the firearm... in fact I did just that and the FFL didn't release the firearm the same day I got my letter back. It took over a month longer to get the ND back.

Who knows what they do down there and why/when things pop out of their mill.

Was trying to make sense of why it takes longer. Good luck on coming up with a different line of reasoning.

 

[Gbh]

Does anyone know for sure what type of check(s) Trooper Thompson does and how far back she looks to see if prior purchases have been made?

She told me about one I made in 1981

 

[Applehd]

Please cut Trooper Thompson some slack here.

Putting the app "back in the pile" is her way of holding for a second review, as time permits. It makes sense to do that for an application for someone desiring to be a "collector of firearms" that has never purchased a (regulated) firearm.

She is giving you good advise. There is nothing prohibiting your son from buying as many guns as he wants today. He must work with the dealer to space the pickup of them until his app is processed.

I think her "only takes a minute to change the letter status to "yes" comment is related to the check box on the 77R asking if you are a designated collector. I think she is saying "go buy your guns and when the letter arrives, you can pick them up with collector privileges".



Your son wants to buy two guns and the lack of collector status is not stopping him. TFC Thompson is correct, there are active collectors waiting for their paperwork, while at this point, your son has no skin in the game.

Let me get this straight... He fills out the paperwork to become a collector which the MSP then does a background check to "OK" his collector's status. Because he has not purchased a gun YET, he has no "skin in the game"... Show me the prerequisite... There is none. I hand delivered both his and my app at the same time. She entered both info into system but only proceeded with mine. She started his process and did not finish it. He is not worthy... F YOU... Do your job, Period. She is NOT the LORD of COLLECTORS. I will cut her slack when they process everyone's apps like they are supposed to. Also, she mentioned that they are only required to process so many apps per day... Really...? Sounds like someone up above put the brakes on things to me....and I am not a big conspiracy theorist... at least I wasn't. And for what it's worth... My son a lot cooler about this situation than I am... I'm pissed... and with each passing day, I am hating Maryland more and more...

(RANT OVER) Thank you...

 

[ShallNotInfringe]

Also, she mentioned that they are only required to process so many apps per day... Really...? Sounds like someone up above put the brakes on things to me....and I am not a big conspiracy theorist... at least I wasn't.

Why am I not surprised?????

 

[bogus130]

Maybe she was in a good mood that day and went ahead and did the check then. I could see putting it off for a designated day to do the more difficult task as opposed to doing it "inline".

I agree. I have also heard that you get put to the back of the pile and she does all the BG checks at the end. Pile could be a daily pile, or weekly pile though so you could be at the end of the day, or end of the week. who knows.

 

[thai]

What!!!?

They only have to process so many applications per day? WTF kind of socialistic effin attitude is that from our democratic government. What bussiness tells their workers to only do so much work?

 

[bogus130]

Why am I not surprised?????

Wow. If that is true that would be very irritating! Please MSP, don't strain yourself too much, we don't want you putting any extra effort into getting your job done!

 

[SSDD]

My paperwork was sent in 3/22/13. I am on day 110+ waiting for my DC and 2 lowers. I sent an email asking about it yesterday and was told that they have my application, but it has not been approved yet. Here's to hoping I don't hit 150 days ...

 

[Faderhaus]

Funny Ha HA. As I said before I own MANY firearms that were not purchased here in MD. So just because I don't have a regulated purchase on their records does not mean my application should be put aside to get to someone elses. There is NOTHING on the application that states you MUST have a previous purchase to obtain this status. In fact I picked up a regulated Beretta last month from an 8 day FFL that I'm damn sure hasn't made their system yet and have another in purgatory at a different FFL since 4/13 SO I can't purchase another from an 8 day FFL UNTIL I get my DC status. I'm glad you find this amusing since you already have yours, but to those of us that do not it is not amusing at all. After living in PA most of my adult life this whole firearm circus they run here in the PRofMD is not amusing at all.

I'm sitting here, reading this and wondering why you think you are more important than anyone else just because you own firearms? I own firearms too, and I AM a designated collector, but it took me about 40 days to acquire my status here in Maryland. I did this in anticipation of the barrage of permit applications that were starting to build during the public notification of the SB281 measures. That was back in February. If you waited until now, you just missed the rush by about 5 months. Since
I have achieved that "status", I have purchased several firearms - all regulated, I have had to go through a "second" review for all excepting one.

I too, don't believe that people who don't own a single Firearm (Regulated or not) SHOULD BE GRANTED "Collector's Status" before others that already own several firearms. I believe this primarily because they haven't been through the Regulated firearms process of getting vetted by MSP and BATFE. So how can a regulated privilege be granted without some "Proof of Purchase"?

Don't get me wrong, I think all people who are responsible gun owners, free of criminal and mental deficiency history should be allowed to possess a DC status. Trouble is they shouldn't put the cart before the horse.

On the other hand, is a wart (sic).

 

[FNG]

C'mon

This is all wonderful nonsense but can we get back to what dates people are getting back?

 

[EvilOlive]

UPS Store

That's where I went.

 

[landmarke]

Just talked to Trooper Thompson, she is currently reviewing DC applications from 6/1.

 

[bilbravo]

Just talked to Trooper Thompson, she is currently reviewing DC applications from 6/1.

Well that means she has definitely gotten to mine, which means I should get it this week or else I will need to call to see if I got put into some other pile because my 4/27 handgun purchase hasn't been reviewed by MSP -- so I'm "not worthy" to be a collector.

 

[Scarab]

Just talked to Trooper Thompson, she is currently reviewing DC applications from 6/1.

Only a month more of applications to get to my date. Woo hoo!

Scarab