Lt. Gov. Town Halls on "Public Safety"
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I will actually be in Annapolis; sorry for the confusion.
I'm pretty sure I'll be in Rockville
Anybody going to Rockville tomorrow want to get some dinner or hang out ahead of time if you're also going right after work?
There is a small Starbucks in the area if we want to support them, and it'd be easy to run into each other there .
If people wanted food beyond an egg salad sandwich and a scone, TARA Asia is a Thai place near where the townhall will take place. We could say we're the MDS group or something.
Of course good luck to those going to the real deal in Annapolis. I've got work stuff I need to be at during the day, like I imagine a number of us do (in that way I think we're at a real disadvantage when it comes to protesting).
There is a small Starbucks in the area if we want to support them, and it'd be easy to run into each other there .
If people wanted food beyond an egg salad sandwich and a scone, TARA Asia is a Thai place near where the townhall will take place. We could say we're the MDS group or something.
Of course good luck to those going to the real deal in Annapolis. I've got work stuff I need to be at during the day, like I imagine a number of us do (in that way I think we're at a real disadvantage when it comes to protesting).
Appear leftist progressive, while waiting for reinforcements.
That will through them off later
JPG
Ultimate Member
give 'em hell boys.
What happened to their "fact sheet" presented at Baltimore? Keep us updated!
tc617
USN Sub Vet
What?!?!? There are no Pro-2A speakers on the agenda?
Bohlieve410
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Weak_Hand_Only
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MD shooters crowd growing
As others have mentioned before - make sure you spread out instead of clustering...own the room!
BeSwift
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Give em Hell guys!!!
Weak_Hand_Only
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hacktracker
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Spent a few minutes chatting with two MSP officers. They were keeping their cards close.
HoCoShooter
Ultimate Member
Someone make sure to tell Col. Brown that you heard him say this was banning only select fire weapons and to clarify himself...
mallow
Pro-2A
Twitter updates with #MDgungrab please? Who should I follow?
This!
Patrick
MSI Executive Member
Video tape, record and be polite.
Themes:
- Licensing
The Supreme Court says we have a fundamental right to self-defense using firearms in common use. They also said the second amendment is equivalent to the first, fourth and fifth. Your law will make people pay hundreds of dollars to exercise a civil right.
Q1: How can you support laws that make people pay the state for civil rights?
Q2: What other rights are you willing to make us pay the state for?
Q3: Has their been a single right in the history of the US that the government makes people pay for, that is now viewed as anything but discriminatory and illegal?
Q4: This law will make it much harder for poor and disadvantaged people to purchase a handgun for home defense. Why are you disenfranchising our rights, and why are you reserving this civil right only for rick people like you?
- AWB/Registration
Your law will require people to register within 30 days. After that they face prison time.
Q1: Do you think it is right to put someone is prison for owning a firearm in 2013 that you gave them permission to buy in 2012, just because they did not know they had to register it?
Q2: What you call "assault weapons" are nothing more than hunting rifles with cosmetic features. MSP Superintendent Brown actually said in the last town hall that the ban should only apply to full automatic machine guns. Are you now admitting that my hunting rifle is also going to be banned?
Q3: The state police keeps a registry of every single regulated firearm (handguns and current AWs) that have been transferred since 1996. Isn't this true? If so, why are you making us do this again, under penalty of prison?
Q4: How many people were killed in all of Maryland last year by someone using what you now call an "Assault Weapon"? (Answer: only 3 murders with long guns and none appear to qualify as an AW under the law...so it looks like zero)
Q5: The state cannot point to a single person all of last year who was murdered by someone using what you call an "Assault Rifle". Why are you banning the most popular rifle in the nation, even though they are not used in crime?
Q6: The governor says an AR-15 is only useful to kill many people. The MSP tells the Maryland Legislature there are more than 50,000 of them in this state. So how come nobody was murdered with one in Maryland last year?
- Penalties
If someone does not know to register their hunting rifle with you in the 30-days they have, they face a misdemeanor punishable by up to 3 years. Anything conviction on a crime that could have been punished by 2 years or more - even if pled down to nothing but a fine - causes a lifetime prohibition on the ownership of any firearm under federal law. It also causes the loss of a security clearance, likely loss of jobs at any firm that does a background check, and will also cause loans to be denied.
Q1: If the only thing I do is fail to register because I forget, am out of town, sick or don't know to do it - why are you looking to destroy my life for not doing paperwork?
Q2: The Supreme Court has previously ruled that no prohibited person or felon can be charged with not registering their firearms, because it would violate their fifth amendment right to not incriminate themselves. This law and these extreme penalties can only be used to prosecute otherwise lawful people and turn them into lifetime criminals. Why are looking to covert lawful people into unlawful people?
Q3: Would you send you son or daughter to jail for failing to fill out paperwork?
Retorts:
"We require people to have driver's licenses..."
Driving is not a fundamental constitutionally protected civil right. The Supreme Court said this is a civil right, and that it is equivalent to the First Amendment. The better analogy is the state forcing me to get a license to go to church.
"The Second Amendment protects muskets..."
Only if the First protects 200 year old printing presses and ignores TV, internet, radio, etc.
Themes:
- Licensing
The Supreme Court says we have a fundamental right to self-defense using firearms in common use. They also said the second amendment is equivalent to the first, fourth and fifth. Your law will make people pay hundreds of dollars to exercise a civil right.
Q1: How can you support laws that make people pay the state for civil rights?
Q2: What other rights are you willing to make us pay the state for?
Q3: Has their been a single right in the history of the US that the government makes people pay for, that is now viewed as anything but discriminatory and illegal?
Q4: This law will make it much harder for poor and disadvantaged people to purchase a handgun for home defense. Why are you disenfranchising our rights, and why are you reserving this civil right only for rick people like you?
- AWB/Registration
Your law will require people to register within 30 days. After that they face prison time.
Q1: Do you think it is right to put someone is prison for owning a firearm in 2013 that you gave them permission to buy in 2012, just because they did not know they had to register it?
Q2: What you call "assault weapons" are nothing more than hunting rifles with cosmetic features. MSP Superintendent Brown actually said in the last town hall that the ban should only apply to full automatic machine guns. Are you now admitting that my hunting rifle is also going to be banned?
Q3: The state police keeps a registry of every single regulated firearm (handguns and current AWs) that have been transferred since 1996. Isn't this true? If so, why are you making us do this again, under penalty of prison?
Q4: How many people were killed in all of Maryland last year by someone using what you now call an "Assault Weapon"? (Answer: only 3 murders with long guns and none appear to qualify as an AW under the law...so it looks like zero)
Q5: The state cannot point to a single person all of last year who was murdered by someone using what you call an "Assault Rifle". Why are you banning the most popular rifle in the nation, even though they are not used in crime?
Q6: The governor says an AR-15 is only useful to kill many people. The MSP tells the Maryland Legislature there are more than 50,000 of them in this state. So how come nobody was murdered with one in Maryland last year?
- Penalties
If someone does not know to register their hunting rifle with you in the 30-days they have, they face a misdemeanor punishable by up to 3 years. Anything conviction on a crime that could have been punished by 2 years or more - even if pled down to nothing but a fine - causes a lifetime prohibition on the ownership of any firearm under federal law. It also causes the loss of a security clearance, likely loss of jobs at any firm that does a background check, and will also cause loans to be denied.
Q1: If the only thing I do is fail to register because I forget, am out of town, sick or don't know to do it - why are you looking to destroy my life for not doing paperwork?
Q2: The Supreme Court has previously ruled that no prohibited person or felon can be charged with not registering their firearms, because it would violate their fifth amendment right to not incriminate themselves. This law and these extreme penalties can only be used to prosecute otherwise lawful people and turn them into lifetime criminals. Why are looking to covert lawful people into unlawful people?
Q3: Would you send you son or daughter to jail for failing to fill out paperwork?
Retorts:
"We require people to have driver's licenses..."
Driving is not a fundamental constitutionally protected civil right. The Supreme Court said this is a civil right, and that it is equivalent to the First Amendment. The better analogy is the state forcing me to get a license to go to church.
"The Second Amendment protects muskets..."
Only if the First protects 200 year old printing presses and ignores TV, internet, radio, etc.
