Looks like TX gets OC in 2016

[VTHokie7]

It's kind of a myth about TX being super pro gun unfortunately. Yea, they're better than MD and NY but a lot of weenies in the legislature being swayed by vague "law enforcement concerns".

The amendment was pushed by the liberals as a poison pill and then some others latched on. Will be a total crock if it falls through. Although in truth I have no intentions of open carrying here. I just liked the extra protection for accidentally showing. Although it's already protected to some degree here.

 

[VTHokie7]

Finally Texas oc made it through the house and senate. Too bad the amendment was stripped to bar police from stopping chl holders to ask for their license. But atleast it will be passed.

 

[krucam]

Finally Texas oc made it through the house and senate. Too bad the amendment was stripped to bar police from stopping chl holders to ask for their license. But atleast it will be passed.

Yup...
http://www.fox4news.com/story/29193...rry-of-handguns-approved-by-texas-legislature

Baby steps, but progress at least. The long gun OC idiots didn't help us in spite of their belief it pushed the issue forward.

 

[ken792]

The part letting police stop people just to check their license can be fixed with a few lawsuits for racial profiling.

 

[danb]

The part letting police stop people just to check their license can be fixed with a few lawsuits for racial profiling.

More likely: 4th amendment violation. Being a felon is not the default status, so the police need to be able to articulate some reason other than having a gun on your hip to stop you.

 

[swinokur]

^^^^^^^^^^^^

THIS.

They need a reason, not a place.

 

[traveller]

More likely: 4th amendment violation. Being a felon is not the default status, so the police need to be able to articulate some reason other than having a gun on your hip to stop you.

This has been an issue in VA where police in independent cities with ordinances neutered by state law kept harassing open carriers. It took a couple of expensive lost lawsuits for the police chiefs to get their officers in line. I dont anticipate this being a big issue in TX, the state is chock full of lawyers itching for work.

 

[Mr H]

More from Texas... Campus Carry and hand-wringing...

http://www.nationalreview.com/corne...rry-bill-will-finally-cause-blood-run-streets

 

[Odiferous Maximus]

It's a good start, but the goal is Constitutional Carry...the mayor and police chief in San Antonio have already said that they plan to use "lawful" means to "discourage" people from OCing. Austin, Houston, and Dallas will probably do the same (guess where all the Libs live?).

Hopefully, after two years of non-events, our legislators will grow some cajones and restore our rights even further.

 

[press1280]

More from Texas... Campus Carry and hand-wringing...

http://www.nationalreview.com/corne...rry-bill-will-finally-cause-blood-run-streets

Is the campus carry bill one that specifically authorizes carry or one that simply decriminalizes it? Many states have campus carry decriminalized but the leftist elites that run 99.99% of colleges will expel any students caught or fire any teachers caught carrying.

 

[jc1240]

More from Texas... Campus Carry and hand-wringing...

http://www.nationalreview.com/corne...rry-bill-will-finally-cause-blood-run-streets

Opponents say the notion that armed students would make a campus safer is an illusion that will have a chilling effect on campus life. Professors said they worry about inviting a student into their offices to talk about a failing grade if they think that student is armed.

And more about "inflated grades" at http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/06/0...campus-carry-law-would-bring-grade-inflation/

It really bothers me that people so stupid and devoid of logic are the ones teaching kids.

 

[Kharn]

This has been an issue in VA where police in independent cities with ordinances neutered by state law kept harassing open carriers. It took a couple of expensive lost lawsuits for the police chiefs to get their officers in line. I dont anticipate this being a big issue in TX, the state is chock full of lawyers itching for work.

Virginia Beach still arrests OC'ers on occasion.
The average pay-out once VCDL gets involved is over $10k.

 

[ken792]

Is the campus carry bill one that specifically authorizes carry or one that simply decriminalizes it? Many states have campus carry decriminalized but the leftist elites that run 99.99% of colleges will expel any students caught or fire any teachers caught carrying.

Campus carry is already technically legal in TX, but only on university grounds and not inside buildings. Carry inside of campus buildings is allowed, but only if the school opts-in to it, which predictably, (probably) none have. That was written into the 1995 law that made TX shall-issue.

This new law makes campus carry the default condition for public universities. However, public universities may designate certain "sensitive" areas of their campus to be gun-free and opt-out of carry for them (at least for the law abiding). They cannot decide to have a complete ban on carrying in buildings.

This is a right guaranteed by state law, so students should not be able to be expelled over it. However, I don't recall reading an enforcement mechanism, so I don't know how individuals can recover damages if expelled or fired over it or if officials who do so may be punished.

With this new law, open carry on campus is still illegal, even if open carry is signed into law.

 

[swamplynx]

Virginia Beach still arrests OC'ers on occasion.
The average pay-out once VCDL gets involved is over $10k.

Next time I'm short on cash I'll keep that in mind.