Live Update of Dealers Release Policy
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reptileguy99
Active Member
- Apr 6, 2013
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I was just about to call them they have my lower 4/5
Mr H
Unincited Co-Conservative
So....
It's worthless if you don't get what YOU want.... Lovely.
This is an effort to correct the issue for the whole state, one step at a time.
Today was huge, IMO. It now sets the stage for the coming months, and for us to reclaim the purchase process.
Those dealers who choose not to release? Well, it's their right under current law (and they'll likely suffer long-term in a free economy).
My new 1911 is still in jail.
(ironically at one of the 1st 8th-day shops)
It's worthless if you don't get what YOU want.... Lovely.
This is an effort to correct the issue for the whole state, one step at a time.
Today was huge, IMO. It now sets the stage for the coming months, and for us to reclaim the purchase process.
Those dealers who choose not to release? Well, it's their right under current law (and they'll likely suffer long-term in a free economy).
My new 1911 is still in jail.
(ironically at one of the 1st 8th-day shops)
Keystone70
MSI Executive Member
Mine is too!
Very big day for a small step in Maryland.
Official verification that the state must follow the laws.
I am looking to do a transfer soon and you can be sure I will be picking an 8th day release FFL.
gmhowell
Not Banned Yet
Why are you still having to wait? Which dealer?
iH8DemLibz
When All Else Fails.
As "Someone" stated earlier, all we have is our "Wangs" in our hands.
clutchNthrottle
Deadpooligan
Ok, so this box is checked now, one down, one to go, let's roll-up our sleeves and knock down the next barrier... the ATF and the NICS number.
This is what all the FFLs are concerned about.
Let's start pushing until they officially clarify what's stated in the Federal law and and already addressed in the FAQ.
Can MSI sue the ATF?
We need to keep pushing buttons until they respond.
Once this hurdle is cleared the FFLs will have nothing to legally fear.
(sorry IH8, had to borrow you're posting style for this one)
This is what all the FFLs are concerned about.
Let's start pushing until they officially clarify what's stated in the Federal law and and already addressed in the FAQ.
Can MSI sue the ATF?
We need to keep pushing buttons until they respond.
Once this hurdle is cleared the FFLs will have nothing to legally fear.
(sorry IH8, had to borrow you're posting style for this one)
iH8DemLibz
When All Else Fails.
Please, borrow away.
ianmcall
Active Member
Contact the ATF and ask for them to write a open letter to the Maryland FFLs just like they did for California. I've been saying this over and over. That is the most we can do on our end.
Ovechtrick
Active Member
Success! I got to pick up my firearm from Atlantic Guns Rockville this afternoon. I needed to show them paperwork from a previous regulated firearm purchase (paperwork could be from any reputable shop, not just Atlantic) and I had to sign a liability waiver. Good luck to the rest of you.
Mr H
Unincited Co-Conservative
CPR???
(Constitutional Protective Recussitation)
(Constitutional Protective Recussitation)
Smokescreen
Knight who say Ni
I was just talking to my FFL and he said he would love to release, but he has not been given direction on what to do with form 4473, specifically questions 21b through 23.
Any FFLs (or lucky ones) know what to do if anything?
Any FFLs (or lucky ones) know what to do if anything?
No. Not because of what I want. Because MSP basically acknowledged the problem and the lawsuit was dropped. In a state as anti 2A as Maryland, I really doubt they will feel much pressure from the courts to honor their commitment to clearing the backlog and respecting the rights of their citizens. The real victory for us will be when the MSP 77R comes back in 8 days. We're all in this together we can't be selfish.
I picked up my 1911 from 3/4 on 5/28 so I imagine how all the first time buyers feel. We need to restore our Rights in Maryland. Don't be so quick to claim victory.
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FWPhoto
Active Member
+1
Has an official response from the AG been seen yet? When I read the docs, all I saw was the MSP dancing around with wordplay that basically makes excuses for their shortcomings and them citing the COMAR as a way to say the plaintiffs didn't have grounds for their complaint. I agree...let the FFL's stew and the free market will decide the penalties after 10/1/13. The FFL's will need us after 10/1 (remember that we buy the goods that keep their doors open) and the ones that stood with us before should be the ones that get our support after.
ianmcall
Active Member
This information is provided in my OP:
If no NICS # is provided by the 8th day to the FFL from MSP, the FFL may leave section 21b blank on a 4473. It says right on the section(if provided).
Mr H
Unincited Co-Conservative
I understand the frustration... Remember, I'm right there with you.
But I'm also involved enough on the "other" side to see that this is a bigger battle.
A battle... not for our newest gun, but for the Right itself. Capital "R"
Maryland really is actively attempting to rip it from us, and make us mere subjects. Any step closer to preventing that really IS a "win." I need you to trust me on that.
I'll be interested to hear what you hear. As volatile and confusing as things have been, I wouldn't be surprised if things may have changed again, but I swear on Tuesday, that's what he told me.
I hope your paperwork is in or he releases to you tomorrow.
Good luck and I'll be interested to hear the news.
Rob
