Hulbert v Pope-loss

[swinokur]

Cert is next

 

[chilipeppermaniac]

Cert is next

Uggh

As piss poor as I am at reading legaleze, it sure sounds like the summary finds for Pope/MGA as far as a good arrest etc.

If I recall, did not the Hulberts also have some other rights impinged/violated once they were detained?

 

[Bertfish]

Patriot Picket Civil Rights Suit FILED!

Is there video of the altercation between Jeff and Pope? I thought it was public at one point. Maybe it was pulled on advice of counsel? look upthread.

www.mdshooters.com

 

[owldo]

"Judgment on the claims herein must thus be entered on remand
for Pope." ... Lawyer speak = Let the original judge look at it again ?

 

[Melnic]

Please splain all this to me.

 

[owldo]

Please splain all this to me.

I read it and my limited layman understanding of it was that appeals shot down most of the plaintiffs allegations and sent it back to original Judge to reconsider. Somebody Correct me if I am wrong.

 

[Bob A]

I can't bring myself to read the decision.

I wish one of our lawyers would undertake a commentary and summary.

 

[teratos]

I can't bring myself to read the decision.

I wish one of our lawyers would undertake a commentary and summary.

The Judge’s decision is based on “alternative facts”

 

[eruby]

I can't bring myself to read the decision.

I wish one of our lawyers would undertake a commentary and summary.

I picture Dean Wormer:

Okay, I think we've heard enough ....

 

[swinokur]

Wormer

 

[K-Romulus]

I’m not a MD lawyer, but the 4th Cir continues to be a place where the Constitution goes to die.

In this case, the 4th Cir said the arresting officer Pope should get qualified immunity:

“Because a reasonable officer in Pope’s position could have believed that the orders constituted lawful time, place, or manner restrictions on the picketers’ First Amendment rights, Pope is entitled to qualified immunity. We therefore reverse and remand with directions to the district court to enter judgment for Pope.”


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[eruby]

Wormer

He said that's it, are you deaf?!?!?!

Post fixed

 

[swinokur]

 

[welder516]

Sad that when you are legally correct and you still are shit on. But the current state we are in, nothing surprises me.

I am so fed up with the heavy hand of local government and the federal system.
Freedom is all smoke and mirrors, you have freedom as long as you do what the government wants as soon as you go against that than you will be dealt with.

 

[GTOGUNNER]

The decision will not pass constitutional muster. When Pope was deposed he should have been asked , have you seen or been on duty when protesters were in Annapolis? When he answers in the affirm, the next question, did you ever make an arrest of a protester in Annapolis for anything? Ever? He is a piece of crap. He deserves nothing. Respect nothing. POS. Gives good cops a bad name.

 

[swinokur]

En Banc hearing requested

 

[RFBfromDE]

The decision will not pass constitutional muster. When Pope was deposed he should have been asked , have you seen or been on duty when protesters were in Annapolis? When he answers in the affirm, the next question, did you ever make an arrest of a protester in Annapolis for anything? Ever? He is a piece of crap. He deserves nothing. Respect nothing. POS. Gives good cops a bad name.

Those were favored class citizens and our guy was an easy target.

 

[pcfixer]

En Banc hearing requested

https://www.marylandshallissue.org/jmain/documents?task=download.send&id=434&catid=4&m=0

APPEAL FROM THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE DISTRICT OF MARYLAND (The Honorable Stephanie A. Gallagher presiding) ____________________ APPELLEES’ MOTION FOR REHEARING EN BANC

USCA4 Appeal: 21-1608 Doc: 69 Filed: 06/28/2023

 

[pcfixer]

IV. New Scholarship Demonstrates That Qualified Immunity is Inconsistent with Section 1983’s Text and Purpose.

I like this part.

 

[pcfixer]

Wonder how long till Appeal is Granted?